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13:46:13 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be IA_XHTML2
Trackbot IRC Bot: Zakim, this will be IA_XHTML2 ←
13:46:13 <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see IA_XHTML2()9:45AM already started
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13:46:14 <trackbot> Meeting: XHTML2 Working Group Teleconference
13:46:14 <trackbot> Date - 15 April 2009
Trackbot IRC Bot: Date - 15 April 2009 ←
13:46:21 <Steven> zakim, who is here?
Steven Pemberton: zakim, who is here? ←
13:46:21 <Zakim> On the phone I see Roland, McCarron
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13:46:23 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, Roland, ShaneM, markus, Steven, markbirbeck, trackbot, Tina
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see RRSAgent, Roland, ShaneM, markus, Steven, markbirbeck, trackbot, Tina ←
13:46:28 <Steven> zakim, dial steven-617
Steven Pemberton: zakim, dial steven-617 ←
13:46:31 <Zakim> ok, Steven; the call is being made
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13:46:32 <Zakim> +Steven
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13:46:40 <Zakim> + +46.7.06.02.aaaa
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13:46:55 <markus> Zakim, 46.7.06.02.aaaa is Markus
Markus Gylling: Zakim, 46.7.06.02.aaaa is Markus ←
13:46:55 <Zakim> sorry, markus, I do not recognize a party named '46.7.06.02.aaaa'
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13:47:15 <markus> Zakim, aaaa is Markus
Markus Gylling: Zakim, aaaa is Markus ←
13:47:15 <Zakim> +Markus; got it
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13:47:40 <Roland> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2009Apr/0025.html
13:47:58 <Roland> Chair: Roland
13:48:08 <Roland> Regrets: Alessio, Tina
13:49:30 <Zakim> +Gregory_Rosmaita
Zakim IRC Bot: +Gregory_Rosmaita ←
13:50:11 <Steven> Scribe: Steven
(Scribe set to Steven Pemberton)
13:50:42 <Steven> Topic: Actions
13:50:53 <Steven> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/tracker/actions/open
http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/tracker/actions/open ←
13:51:07 <Steven> Roland: I still have to do several...
Roland Merrick: I still have to do several... ←
13:51:07 <Steven> Subtopic: Action 17
13:51:27 <Steven> Roland: Action 17 may not be appropriate anymore
Roland Merrick: ACTION-17 may not be appropriate anymore ←
13:52:07 <oedipus> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/tracker/actions/17
Gregory Rosmaita: http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/tracker/actions/17 ←
13:52:19 <oedipus> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/tracker/agenda
Gregory Rosmaita: http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/tracker/agenda ←
13:52:26 <Steven> Steven: Maybe put in abeyance until we know more about the activities
Steven Pemberton: Maybe put in abeyance until we know more about the activities ←
13:53:21 <oedipus> RM: this is whether HTML WG and XHTML2 WG should be merged?
Roland Merrick: this is whether HTML WG and XHTML2 WG should be merged? [ Scribe Assist by Gregory Rosmaita ] ←
13:53:38 <oedipus> SP: have to negotiate common position before can collaborate
Steven Pemberton: have to negotiate common position before can collaborate [ Scribe Assist by Gregory Rosmaita ] ←
13:53:55 <oedipus> RM: PlH concern is merging
Roland Merrick: PlH concern is merging [ Scribe Assist by Gregory Rosmaita ] ←
13:54:24 <oedipus> SP: if we were to merge, would have to recharter to include work that has to be done - PlH thought that creating new charter would take at least 6 months
Steven Pemberton: if we were to merge, would have to recharter to include work that has to be done - PlH thought that creating new charter would take at least 6 months [ Scribe Assist by Gregory Rosmaita ] ←
13:54:33 <oedipus> SP: process - drafting, consensus, review
Steven Pemberton: process - drafting, consensus, review [ Scribe Assist by Gregory Rosmaita ] ←
13:55:10 <oedipus> SP: timetable for merging is end of year anyway -- close to when XHTML2 WG's charter runs out
Steven Pemberton: timetable for merging is end of year anyway -- close to when XHTML2 WG's charter runs out [ Scribe Assist by Gregory Rosmaita ] ←
13:56:37 <Steven> ACTION-17 closed
13:56:37 <trackbot> ACTION-17 create Strawman for XHTML <=> HTML5 positioning closed
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-17 create Strawman for XHTML <=> HTML5 positioning closed ←
13:57:15 <oedipus> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/tracker/actions/27
Gregory Rosmaita: http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/tracker/actions/27 ←
13:57:18 <Steven> Subtopic: Action 27
13:57:21 <Steven> Steven: Not done
Steven Pemberton: Not done ←
13:57:28 <Steven> Roland: Will go into next draft?
Roland Merrick: Will go into next draft? ←
13:57:30 <Steven> Steven: Yes
Steven Pemberton: Yes ←
13:57:31 <Steven> Subtopic: Action 29
13:57:45 <Steven> Roland: Action 29 we won't do
Roland Merrick: ACTION-29 we won't do ←
13:57:48 <oedipus> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/tracker/actions/29 (adding XInclude)
Gregory Rosmaita: http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/tracker/actions/29 (adding XInclude) ←
13:57:58 <Steven> ... I will write a note to a WG to record that
... I will write a note to a WG to record that ←
13:58:14 <Steven> Steven: Just close it and refer to minutes
Steven Pemberton: Just close it and refer to minutes ←
13:58:36 <Steven> ACTION-29 closed
13:58:36 <trackbot> ACTION-29 adding XInclude closed
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-29 adding XInclude closed ←
13:59:06 <oedipus> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/tracker/actions/31 (access module transition
Gregory Rosmaita: http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/tracker/actions/31 (access module transition ←
13:59:07 <Steven> Subtopic: Action 31
13:59:13 <Steven> Roland: ACTION 31, are we waiting for something?
Roland Merrick: ACTION-31, are we waiting for something? ←
13:59:46 <Steven> Shane: We were waiting for reply from I18N
Shane McCarron: We were waiting for reply from I18N ←
13:59:51 <Steven> ... I think it was finished
... I think it was finished ←
13:59:55 <oedipus> "We recently received your responses to our comments on the XHTML Access Module and we reviewed them at a recent teleconference [1]. While some progress has been made, we're still not entirely satisfied with the results. Our focus is on Section 3.1.2 [2]"
Gregory Rosmaita: "We recently received your responses to our comments on the XHTML Access Module and we reviewed them at a recent teleconference [1]. While some progress has been made, we're still not entirely satisfied with the results. Our focus is on Section 3.1.2 [2]" ←
14:00:23 <oedipus> http://www.w3.org/mid/20081119163216.M75469%2540hicom.net
Gregory Rosmaita: http://www.w3.org/mid/20081119163216.M75469%2540hicom.net ←
14:00:57 <oedipus> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2008Nov/0013.html
Gregory Rosmaita: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2008Nov/0013.html ←
14:01:01 <Steven> Shane: I have an updated CR draft
Shane McCarron: I have an updated CR draft ←
14:01:04 <ShaneM> CR Draft for publication was at http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2009/CR-xhtml-access-20090115/
Shane McCarron: CR Draft for publication was at http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2009/CR-xhtml-access-20090115/ ←
14:01:24 <Steven> Roland: There was the key discussion
Roland Merrick: There was the key discussion ←
14:01:41 <Steven> ... I think we updated
... I think we updated ←
14:01:52 <oedipus> second i18n post: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-html-editor/2009JanMar/0001.html
Gregory Rosmaita: second i18n post: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-html-editor/2009JanMar/0001.html ←
14:01:58 <Steven> Steven: Did we get sign-off?
Steven Pemberton: Did we get sign-off? ←
14:02:03 <Steven> Roland: Not sure
Roland Merrick: Not sure ←
14:02:07 <Steven> Shane: Thought so
Shane McCarron: Thought so ←
14:02:13 <oedipus> SP reply: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-html-editor/2009JanMar/0006.html
Gregory Rosmaita: SP reply: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-html-editor/2009JanMar/0006.html ←
14:02:29 <Steven> Steven: I'll take it offline, and if it has been signed off, I will send the request
Steven Pemberton: I'll take it offline, and if it has been signed off, I will send the request ←
14:02:48 <oedipus> Addison Phillips reply to SP's reply: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-html-editor/2009JanMar/0007.html
Gregory Rosmaita: Addison Phillips reply to SP's reply: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-html-editor/2009JanMar/0007.html ←
14:03:50 <oedipus> "This is, I should add, a problem that keyboard mnemonics have had in desktop software localization for (essentially) forever."
Gregory Rosmaita: "This is, I should add, a problem that keyboard mnemonics have had in desktop software localization for (essentially) forever." ←
14:04:56 <Steven> Steven: I found a response from him, that it's OK
Steven Pemberton: I found a response from him, that it's OK ←
14:05:17 <Steven> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-html-editor/2009JanMar/0009
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-html-editor/2009JanMar/0009 ←
14:05:34 <oedipus> Addison says "i'm ok with this resolution" http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-html-editor/2009JanMar/0013.html
Gregory Rosmaita: Addison says "i'm ok with this resolution" http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-html-editor/2009JanMar/0013.html ←
14:05:38 <Steven> Steven: Addison OK'd that
Steven Pemberton: Addison OK'd that ←
14:06:04 <Steven> Steven: Does the spec match this?
Steven Pemberton: Does the spec match this? ←
14:06:11 <oedipus> GJR comments: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-html-editor/2009JanMar/0009.html
Gregory Rosmaita: GJR comments: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-html-editor/2009JanMar/0009.html ←
14:06:12 <Steven> Shane: No, don't think so
Shane McCarron: No, don't think so ←
14:06:32 <Steven> Steven: Shane, if you ping me when that's ready, I can send it out
Steven Pemberton: Shane, if you ping me when that's ready, I can send it out ←
14:07:21 <Steven> Roland: Please make sure the DoC covers this as well
Roland Merrick: Please make sure the DoC covers this as well ←
14:08:14 <Steven> Shane: I'll do that
Shane McCarron: I'll do that ←
14:08:25 <oedipus> [FYI first action items we discussed bound to HTML WG action] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/105
Gregory Rosmaita: [FYI first action items we discussed bound to HTML WG action] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/105 ←
14:09:07 <Steven> Subtopic: HTML5/XHTML2/ARIA Action 52
14:09:22 <Steven> Gregory: I see the HTML5 WG has the same action, to talk to the XHTML2 chairs
Gregory Rosmaita: I see the HTML5 WG has the same action, to talk to the XHTML2 chairs ←
14:09:56 <Steven> Roland: WAI review; we talked about it last week
Roland Merrick: WAI review; we talked about it last week ←
14:10:12 <Steven> Steven: I was OK with it
Steven Pemberton: I was OK with it ←
14:10:31 <Steven> Gregory: There is ARIA's relationship with @role
Gregory Rosmaita: There is ARIA's relationship with @role ←
14:10:40 <Steven> ... which says "derived from..."
... which says "derived from..." ←
14:11:17 <Steven> ... and the answer that is coming back (which I don't agree with) is that it is to accomodate ARIA in HTML5
... and the answer that is coming back (which I don't agree with) is that it is to accomodate ARIA in HTML5 ←
14:11:34 <Steven> ... but HTML5 want to hard-code ARIA
... but HTML5 want to hard-code ARIA ←
14:11:49 <Steven> ... which would freeze it, which would take ARIA out of our control
... which would freeze it, which would take ARIA out of our control ←
14:12:41 <oedipus> q+
Gregory Rosmaita: q+ ←
14:14:02 <Steven> Gregory: we are reviewing @alt text as well
Gregory Rosmaita: we are reviewing @alt text as well ←
14:14:55 <Steven> ... and thinking of keying the requirement of @alt keyed off of @role="Image"
... and thinking of keying the requirement of @alt keyed off of @role="Image" ←
14:14:58 <ShaneM> XHTML Access CR updated at http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2009/CR-xhtml-access-20090417/
Shane McCarron: XHTML Access CR updated at http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2009/CR-xhtml-access-20090417/ ←
14:15:30 <Steven> ACTION-52 closed
14:15:30 <trackbot> ACTION-52 Read WAI ARIA by 18 march closed
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-52 Read WAI ARIA by 18 march closed ←
14:16:03 <Steven> Subtopic: Action 53
14:16:22 <Steven> Steven: Didn't we do that already?
Steven Pemberton: Didn't we do that already? ←
14:16:30 <Steven> ... I recall a reply from Nick vd Bleeken
... I recall a reply from Nick vd Bleeken ←
14:17:12 <oedipus> thanks to whomever for updating http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml/vocab/
Gregory Rosmaita: thanks to whomever for updating http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml/vocab/ ←
14:17:38 <oedipus> i mean, i now shane updated it, but someone moved it to were it should be
Gregory Rosmaita: i mean, i now shane updated it, but someone moved it to were it should be ←
14:20:39 <Steven> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Sep/0029.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Sep/0029.html ←
14:23:25 <Steven> Steven: I raised the XML Events 2 issue in the Forms WG, and Nick pointed me to the mail above
Steven Pemberton: I raised the XML Events 2 issue in the Forms WG, and Nick pointed me to the mail above ←
14:23:31 <Steven> ... so he has done the analysis
... so he has done the analysis ←
14:25:33 <Steven> ... we just need to agree with them on the real names
... we just need to agree with them on the real names ←
14:26:00 <Steven> Roland: We need to go around again
Roland Merrick: We need to go around again ←
14:26:18 <oedipus> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/211 - query XHTML2 and SVG on whether mixing roles and ids with targetrole and targetid for @order ok or problemmatic
Gregory Rosmaita: http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/211 - query XHTML2 and SVG on whether mixing roles and ids with targetrole and targetid for @order ok or problemmatic ←
14:26:29 <Steven> ... we'll deal with this when we deal with XML Events 2
... we'll deal with this when we deal with XML Events 2 ←
14:26:36 <oedipus> http://www.w3.org/mid/20080806150850.M78058%2540hicom.net
Gregory Rosmaita: http://www.w3.org/mid/20080806150850.M78058%2540hicom.net ←
14:27:09 <oedipus> never reached resolution or response on this question from PF
Gregory Rosmaita: never reached resolution or response on this question from PF ←
14:27:32 <Steven> Shane: There are two issues - harmonising Events with XForms, and harmonising XForms with XHTML2
Shane McCarron: There are two issues - harmonising Events with XForms, and harmonising XForms with XHTML2 ←
14:27:51 <Steven> Roland: We need to organise another virtual FtF
Roland Merrick: We need to organise another virtual FtF ←
14:28:53 <Steven> Gregory: I had an action on mixing roles and ids (see above)
Gregory Rosmaita: I had an action on mixing roles and ids (see above) ←
14:28:59 <oedipus> http://www.w3.org/mid/20080806150850.M78058%2540hicom.net
Gregory Rosmaita: http://www.w3.org/mid/20080806150850.M78058%2540hicom.net ←
14:29:36 <oedipus> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2008Aug/0013.html
Gregory Rosmaita: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2008Aug/0013.html ←
14:30:32 <Steven> Shane: Interesting
Shane McCarron: Interesting ←
14:31:01 <Steven> Steven: This clearly needs to be dealt with in the session Roland mentioned
Steven Pemberton: This clearly needs to be dealt with in the session Roland mentioned ←
14:31:20 <Steven> Subtopic: Action 64
14:31:25 <oedipus> from GJR post: "finally, the question then arose "what happens when there is a DOM mutation that changes the number of roles (adding or subtracting from them)?"; if that happens, then the User Agent should/must find the next item, even if that item is a new item added by a DOM mutation event..."
Gregory Rosmaita: from GJR post: "finally, the question then arose "what happens when there is a DOM mutation that changes the number of roles (adding or subtracting from them)?"; if that happens, then the User Agent should/must find the next item, even if that item is a new item added by a DOM mutation event..." ←
14:31:49 <Steven> Shane: Not done; big issue needs to be solved
Shane McCarron: Not done; big issue needs to be solved ←
14:32:31 <Steven> Subtopic: Action 67
14:32:40 <Steven> Steven: They are willing, just need to settle on a time
Steven Pemberton: They are willing, just need to settle on a time ←
14:32:47 <Steven> Gregory: What about during the vftf?
Gregory Rosmaita: What about during the vftf? ←
14:33:00 <Steven> Steven: Sounds good
Steven Pemberton: Sounds good ←
14:33:07 <Steven> Topic: Next VFtF
14:33:38 <oedipus> a week from thursday?
Gregory Rosmaita: a week from thursday? ←
14:33:47 <oedipus> GJR: can do
Gregory Rosmaita: can do [ Scribe Assist by Gregory Rosmaita ] ←
14:33:49 <Steven> Roland: 23 April?
Roland Merrick: 23 April? ←
14:33:53 <markus> can do
Markus Gylling: can do ←
14:33:55 <Steven> Steven: Works for me
Steven Pemberton: Works for me ←
14:34:14 <Steven> Shane: I can make my morning
Shane McCarron: I can make my morning ←
14:34:52 <Steven> Roland: 12:00 UTC?
Roland Merrick: 12:00 UTC? ←
14:35:00 <Steven> ... for 3 hours
... for 3 hours ←
14:35:27 <oedipus> 7am for Shane
Gregory Rosmaita: 7am for Shane ←
14:35:34 <oedipus> 1pm for Roland
Gregory Rosmaita: 1pm for Roland ←
14:35:45 <Steven> Shane: I'll work it out, should be OK
Shane McCarron: I'll work it out, should be OK ←
14:35:53 <markus> +1
Markus Gylling: +1 ←
14:36:13 <Roland> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2009&month=04&day=23&hour=12&min=00&sec=0&p1=136&p2=179&p3=215&p5=283
Roland Merrick: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2009&month=04&day=23&hour=12&min=00&sec=0&p1=136&p2=179&p3=215&p5=283 ←
14:37:05 <Steven> Still need to hear from Tina and Alessio, and MarkBirbeck
Still need to hear from Tina and Alessio, and MarkBirbeck ←
14:37:55 <Steven> Roland: Send in items for the agenda
Roland Merrick: Send in items for the agenda ←
14:38:04 <oedipus> addition of D for dialogue
Gregory Rosmaita: addition of D for dialogue ←
14:38:07 <Steven> Topic: PERs
14:38:41 <Steven> Shane: What about the PERs?
Shane McCarron: What about the PERs? ←
14:38:59 <Steven> Steven: I finished off the questionaires, they'll go through the mill tomorrow
Steven Pemberton: I finished off the questionaires, they'll go through the mill tomorrow ←
14:39:37 <Steven> Roland: Steven, please invite the i18n people
Roland Merrick: Steven, please invite the i18n people ←
14:39:39 <oedipus> for agenda: http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/tracker/issues/3
Gregory Rosmaita: for agenda: http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/tracker/issues/3 ←
14:39:41 <Steven> Steven: Will do
Steven Pemberton: Will do ←
14:40:09 <oedipus> s/for agenda: /for virtual Face2Face agenda/
Gregory Rosmaita: s/for agenda: /for virtual Face2Face agenda/ ←
14:40:34 <Steven> Topic: CURIEs, and host language
14:40:56 <oedipus> s/invite the i18n people/invite the i18n people to participate during 23 april 2009 virtual face2face/
Gregory Rosmaita: s/invite the i18n people/invite the i18n people to participate during 23 april 2009 virtual face2face/ ←
14:40:58 <Steven> Shane: Steven, you thought that the change wouldn't require a new last call
Shane McCarron: Steven, you thought that the change wouldn't require a new last call ←
14:41:01 <Steven> Steven: Right
Steven Pemberton: Right ←
14:41:23 <Steven> Shane: Someone disagrees with that
Shane McCarron: Someone disagrees with that ←
14:41:32 <oedipus> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-html-editor/2009AprJun/0009.html
Gregory Rosmaita: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-html-editor/2009AprJun/0009.html ←
14:42:34 <oedipus> crux of post: "PROPOSED FIX: Ideally, there would be a "mimimalistic" CURIE profile, ideally something like SPARQL's abbreviation mechanism. Even QNames would be fine (though we'd recommend the spec point out that to cover all URIs there should be a non-abbreviated form)."
Gregory Rosmaita: crux of post: "PROPOSED FIX: Ideally, there would be a "mimimalistic" CURIE profile, ideally something like SPARQL's abbreviation mechanism. Even QNames would be fine (though we'd recommend the spec point out that to cover all URIs there should be a non-abbreviated form)." ←
14:43:04 <Steven> Shane: I recommend reading the thread completely
Shane McCarron: I recommend reading the thread completely ←
14:43:29 <Steven> Roland: Let's add agenda items to the wiki
Roland Merrick: Let's add agenda items to the wiki ←
14:44:00 <oedipus> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-html-editor/2009AprJun/threads.html#msg7
Gregory Rosmaita: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-html-editor/2009AprJun/threads.html#msg7 ←
14:44:00 <Roland> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/xhtml2/wiki/Face2Face-meetings
Roland Merrick: http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/xhtml2/wiki/Face2Face-meetings ←
14:44:47 <Steven> [ADJOURN]
[ADJOURN] ←
14:44:58 <Zakim> -McCarron
Zakim IRC Bot: -McCarron ←
14:45:00 <Zakim> -Gregory_Rosmaita
Zakim IRC Bot: -Gregory_Rosmaita ←
14:45:01 <Zakim> -Steven
Zakim IRC Bot: -Steven ←
14:45:01 <Zakim> -Roland
Zakim IRC Bot: -Roland ←
14:45:03 <Zakim> -Markus
Zakim IRC Bot: -Markus ←
14:45:03 <Zakim> IA_XHTML2()9:45AM has ended
Zakim IRC Bot: IA_XHTML2()9:45AM has ended ←
14:45:05 <Zakim> Attendees were Roland, McCarron, Steven, +46.7.06.02.aaaa, Markus, Gregory_Rosmaita
Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were Roland, McCarron, Steven, +46.7.06.02.aaaa, Markus, Gregory_Rosmaita ←
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