<lofton> benoit, do you feel like scribing today?
<BB> I would really prefer just to listen today
invite zakim #webcgm
<lofton> scribe: dave
<lofton> scribenick: dc
No new business
Original comment - http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webcgm-wg/2006Aug/0064.html
Proposed appendix - http://www.w3.org/Graphics/WebCGM/WG/2006/wai-appendix.html
History - WAI comments arrived shortly after end of f2f. Lofton then drafted appendix as a response
WAI group subsequently approved the proposed appendix and the WebCGM WG will work with them for a way forward during CR
CR is scheduled to end Oct 6, so we have 3+ weeks to perform this work
During this telecon we will go through the comments from Al and discuss them
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webcgm-wg/2006Sep/0015
Lofton - the goal of the appendix should be to raise the awareness of requirements for accessibiility
<scribe> ACTION: Al to share link to visual workshop
<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - Al
Resolution: Al Gilman will share link to visual workshop
<lofton> AG: crux of the problem is to find navigation mode to help explore scene graph of articulable objects (fair summary?)
<lofton> http://www.cgmopen.org/technical/webcgmchoice-slides.pdf
<Chris> so can someone take an action to give some real-world examples of WebCGM 2.0?
<scribe> ACTION: Dave to provide example of typicall technical illustrations, CGM and some raster format
<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - dc
<Chris> trackbot, status?
<scribe> ACTION: David to provide example of typicall technical illustrations, CGM and some raster format
<trackbot> Created ACTION-20 - Provide example of typicall technical illustrations, CGM and some raster format [on David Cruikshank - due 2006-09-14].
Concept of natural navigation through something like a technical illustration dealing with disassembly instructions
moving from a locator to a detail to a further detail, etc
Lofton - Al's message has two parts
Lofton - part 1 is a larger wide view section that is probably a long term view for WebCGM
Lofton - part 2 consists of 5 points that we should concentrate on
Al - We should only deal with points that have a 50% chance of success during CR
<lofton> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webcgm-wg/2006Sep/0015
Lofton - Point 1 - it appears we have gathered together the main points
Al - yes, 80% - this was a pleasant supprise
Lofton - Point 2 addresses navigation through a technical graphic - we may not have fully addressed this issue in the appendix
Lofton - we are willing to discuss how we need to modify the statement in the appendix to address this
Al - WebCGM needs to expose the structure and the structure used to navigate may be different from the CGM structure
Al - something like a tree-structured TOC to aid navigation intent
Al - navigation may be user dependent
Lofton - can Al propose a descrete modification to the resolution statement here?
Al - instant answer, yes, but there may be more.
Al - we will be imited for what we can do in preparation for PR, but there may be somethings that will be intended for 2.1 or 3.
Lofton - providing alternative access modes, like keyboard access may be something that we can add to the appendix
Lofton - a navigatble TOC or even backwards order
Lofton - this could be a first step to amend the appendix
Lofton - this appendix will be a new introductory primer level to a lot of people in this community
Al - maybe up to 3 navigation modes (hierartical TOC, etc)
Ben - hearing that the authoring tools need to add more metadata to the file to aid navigation
Al, with Lofton's help, will provide a proposal for reworking the wording in the appendix
<lofton> ...specifically: alternative wording for the suggestion of sequential, document order keyboard navigation through a picture's objects.
Lofton - Point 3 on alt-like features
kentarou - make alt native in format
Lofton - 2.1 or 3.0 extension
Al - maybe take same approach SVG does
Lofton - integration pan zoom controls may operation contrary to accessibility requirements
Lofton - but t his viewer behavior is specified in WebCGM
Lofton - can Al expand on this a little on how to address this potential problem
Al - this is a long term thing that should not affect the PR appendix, but we can continue to work on it.
Al - webcgm object that have behaviors should act like embedded object in t he compound document sense on how it interacts with other objects
Lofton - What we have said in the appendix is probably ok, for PR
Lofton - 1st point 5, last paragraph - extensibility
Al - t his is probably a 2.1or 3.0 work item,
Lofton - no need to do anything in appendix on this subject for PR text
Lofton - action item due dates - early in the day Wednesday, Sep 13
<scribe> ACTION: Lofton to provide starting place for plugins to WAI
<trackbot> Created ACTION-21 - Provide starting place for plugins to WAI [on Lofton Henderson - due 2006-09-14].
All action items will go through our WG group list with cc to Al
<lofton> chris?
<lofton> Dave doesn't seem to be getting any response to "make minutes"