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<lofton> My message to the WG list (15 min. ago) has not appeared. Sole topic is PR-advancement resolution. I'll cut-paste pieces:

<lofton> [Start...] Ulrich has just sent me updates to the most recently published implementation matrix [1] (I have not yet had time to integrate the updates).

<lofton> Basically, it looks like ACI LETD is okay, while ACI HSD does not have 2-pass, nor does setGetIntensity (which feature is *not* in the at-risk list).

<lofton> More...

<lofton> As expected, these at-risk features will probably get dropped:

<lofton> 1.) ACI Line Type Continuation (listed "at risk" for CR)

<lofton> 2.) ACI Edge Type Continuation (listed "at risk" for CR)

<lofton> 3.) XCF access to transform stuff (listed "at risk" for CR)

<lofton> More...

<lofton> However, we also are missing 2-pass on these features

<lofton> 4.) ACI Hatch Style Definition (listed "at risk" for CR)

<lofton> 5.) DOM set/get Intensity (NOT listed "at risk").

<lofton> More...

<lofton> We have a decision to make about #4 -- Stuart and Dave assert that this is a key feature for A&D applications. Therefore, apparently we should wait for 2-pass, unless they are happy with the LETD result and don't mind abandoning HSD.

<lofton> We don't have to decide about #5 -- we must implement it, or else (if we drop it), then we will have to go through another WD cycle in W3C.

<lofton> More...

<lofton> Therefore, any resolution we pass today would have to be conditional:

<lofton> "Resolution: After attainment of 2-pass status for ACI access to Hatch Style Definition and 2-pass status status for DOM set/get access to "Intensity", the WebCGM WG will remove the following three "at risk" features from the WebCGM 2.1 specification and wishes to advance the resulting document to PR status:

<lofton> 1.) ACI Line Type Continuation;

<lofton> 2.) ACI Edge Type Continuation;

<lofton> 3.) XCF access to geometric transform functionality;"

Don will work on ACI intensity. He will try to get this working next week.

The Hatch style definintion is different from line styles so it doesn't look like it will be implemented in a near timeframe.

<lofton> (email finally appeared: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webcgm-wg/2009Nov/0007.html )

<lofton> Okay, I guess we will have to drop ACI-HSD, as no implementor plans to do it. Therefore the resolution looks like...

<lofton> Resolution: After attainment of 2-pass status for DOM set/get access to "Intensity",

<lofton> the WebCGM WG will remove the following four "at risk" features from the

<lofton> WebCGM 2.1 specification and wishes to advance the resulting document to PR

<lofton> status:

<lofton> 1.) ACI access to Line Type Continuation;

<lofton> 2.) ACI access to Edge Type Continuation;

<lofton> 3.) XCF access to geometric transform functionality;

<lofton> 4.) ACI access to Hatch Style Definition;

I agree (with reluctance)

don, agrees

dave, agrees

<tmichel> I agree

<lofton> I agree

<don> I agree

absent: dieter

Looks like the resolution passed.

<lofton> (I will try to get email agree/disagree from Benoit and Dieter.)

<dave> great...gotta run

<tmichel> we should probably have acceptance of this resolution by Benoit or Dieter by email

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Present: Lofton_Henderson Stuart_Galt Don_Larson Dave Thierry Ulrich
Regrets: benoit
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