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Bug 5821 - meta/@scheme missing
Summary: meta/@scheme missing
Status: RESOLVED NEEDSINFO
Alias: None
Product: HTML WG
Classification: Unclassified
Component: pre-LC1 HTML5 spec (editor: Ian Hickson) (show other bugs)
Version: unspecified
Hardware: PC Windows XP
: P2 normal
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: Michael[tm] Smith
QA Contact: HTML WG Bugzilla archive list
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Keywords: TrackerIssue
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Reported: 2008-06-29 08:28 UTC by Julian Reschke
Modified: 2010-10-04 14:31 UTC (History)
6 users (show)

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Description Julian Reschke 2008-06-29 08:28:42 UTC
This is a reminder that the removal of meta/@scheme needs to be reviewed.

Note that RFC 2731 ("Encoding Dublin Core Metadata in HTML") recommends using this attribute for type information, and that <http://code.google.com/webstats/2005-12/metadata.html> indicates "Continuing up the chart we see scheme and lang. Further research will be needed to find out how scheme is used.".

Further note that RFC 2731 seems to propose a solution to a problem that RDFa also covers. So adoption of a RDFa compatible format may also take care of this problem.
Comment 1 Ian 'Hixie' Hickson 2008-06-29 08:47:40 UTC
Was this bug intended for me or for the working group in general? It's not clear who the "reminder" is for.

<meta scheme> was studied years ago, before the W3C got involved I think. I don't plan to study it again unless there's some new data that needs considering.
Comment 2 Julian Reschke 2008-06-29 09:05:30 UTC
(In reply to comment #1)
> Was this bug intended for me or for the working group in general? It's not
> clear who the "reminder" is for.

It's a reminder for all of us.

> <meta scheme> was studied years ago, before the W3C got involved I think. I
> don't plan to study it again unless there's some new data that needs
> considering.

Then it would be totally useful if you could add a pointer to that research.
Comment 3 Ian 'Hixie' Hickson 2008-06-29 09:22:47 UTC
I've no idea where it was documented. A search in the archives for "scheme attribute" would probably find it, if it was done in response to e-mails sent to the WHATWG list. If it was done without prompting then I doubt there's any public record of it.

Reassigning to Mike to get it off my list -- FWIW, I believe the correct procedure here for working group reminders is to use the tracker tool rather than Bugzilla, but Mike can probably give better guidance here.
Comment 4 Julian Reschke 2009-11-25 12:25:40 UTC
meta/@scheme is not defined in HTML5, but it was in HTML4. Note that the text under "12.2 Non-conforming features":

"scheme on meta elements

    Use only one scheme per field, or make the scheme declaration part of the value."

can't be considered a proper description.

On the other hand, the document currently claims in the IANA registration for text/html to be a complete definition.
Comment 5 Julian Reschke 2009-11-25 12:34:57 UTC
Note:

   Changes should be requested only when there are serious omissions or
   errors in the published specification.  When review is required, a
   change request may be denied if it renders entities that were valid
   under the previous definition invalid under the new definition.

<http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4288#section-9>
Comment 6 Maciej Stachowiak 2009-12-01 19:50:48 UTC
It looks like this has an overdue request to create a tracker issue. Mike?
Comment 7 Michael[tm] Smith 2009-12-03 15:08:16 UTC
(In reply to comment #6)
> It looks like this has an overdue request to create a tracker issue. Mike?

I'll try to get it added today, but I would be happy if somebody else were to do it in the mean time. Julian?

Comment 8 Maciej Stachowiak 2010-01-04 14:38:14 UTC
putting this bug in RESOLVED state since that's the right state for a tracker request.
Comment 9 Julian Reschke 2010-01-04 14:50:55 UTC
Re-opening until we actually do have a related tracker issue.
Comment 10 Maciej Stachowiak 2010-01-04 15:43:57 UTC
(In reply to comment #9)
> Re-opening until we actually do have a related tracker issue.
> 

The need for a tracker issue is indicated by the TrackerRequest keyword. Per the process, it's correct for a bug awaiting a tracker issue to be resolved and marked TrackerRequest. See <http://dev.w3.org/html5/decision-policy/decision-policy.html>.

Note: I have a query for all bugs tagged with TrackerRequest and I will make sure they all get into the tracker.
Comment 11 Julian Reschke 2010-01-28 14:44:20 UTC
Raised as http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/99