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Bug 5190 - Add Details for Describing Files and Elements
Summary: Add Details for Describing Files and Elements
Status: NEW
Alias: None
Product: SVG
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Accessibility Support (show other bugs)
Version: All Specifications
Hardware: PC Windows XP
: P2 major
Target Milestone: Feature Request
Assignee: Doug Schepers
QA Contact: SVG Public List
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Reported: 2007-10-13 02:32 UTC by Doug Schepers
Modified: 2007-10-13 08:33 UTC (History)
1 user (show)

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Attachments
Semantic Web logo with Text Underlying Graphical Glyph Representations (11.19 KB, image/svg+xml)
2007-10-13 08:19 UTC, Doug Schepers
Details

Description Doug Schepers 2007-10-13 02:32:36 UTC
We should add best-practice examples of how to describe SVG files using a combination of the <title>, <desc>, and <metadata> elements, including the use of RDF and microformats.  This should be explicated in the Accessibility Note, but also exemplified throughout the specs, and in any tutorial materials we make or endorse.

We should also add conformance criteria in section "D.5.1 Conforming SVG Interpreters" for search engines, so that they index SVG files, and at the very least present the text and metadata of the file as search results, and preferably cache them as static images (to be presented a la Google Image Search).  Language translation tools (also common in some search engines) should also be able to translate the contents of the file.


For more details, see:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-svg/2007Oct/0084.html
http://www.schepers.cc/?p=11
Comment 1 j.chetwynd 2007-10-13 07:32:13 UTC
Can I propose the new SW logo as this combines many WG and includes text?

 http://www.w3.org/2007/10/sw-logos.html

doug if you agree please copy or use anything from my recent offlist post.
perhaps a little long for here

let's use one (RDF?) in an attachment here, and then copy Ivan in...
add (desc) to description

this is political, perhaps especially the translation issue.
should W3C provide translated logos like peepo.co.uk?

regarding caching static image, should the author (optionally?) provide a link image? is there a tech term for such a thing?

please change os to 'all'
Comment 2 Doug Schepers 2007-10-13 08:19:24 UTC
Created attachment 493 [details]
Semantic Web logo with Text Underlying Graphical Glyph Representations
Comment 3 Doug Schepers 2007-10-13 08:33:41 UTC
(In reply to comment #1)
> Can I propose the new SW logo as this combines many WG and includes text?
> 
>  http://www.w3.org/2007/10/sw-logos.html

This is not the place for this conversation.  This is not a forum, it's an issue tracker for tracking feature requests and technical issues with the SVG specifications and resources.  If you fill it with off-topic material, it will make it harder for everyone (both the public and the SVG WG) to use it to efficiently address open issues. 

Nevertheless, I've posted a "fixed" version of that logo, with real text supplementing the null-semantic glyph shapes.

> regarding caching static image, should the author (optionally?) provide a link
> image? is there a tech term for such a thing?

I don't think that's necessary or desirable.  Rasterizing SVG, if that's what the search engine chooses to do, is trivially easy, and could be done on the fly when indexing.  Author-pre-cached images mean more to maintain, and a greater chance of losing sync, and nobody would do it anyway.


> please change os to 'all'

As I explain in the Feedback page (http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/feedback.html), please ignore Platform and OS... they are meaningless in the context of non-software issues, but Bugzilla is a little clunky.