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Bug 13571 - user agent MUST allow user to activate the button
Summary: user agent MUST allow user to activate the button
Status: RESOLVED WORKSFORME
Alias: None
Product: HTML WG
Classification: Unclassified
Component: HTML5 spec (show other bugs)
Version: unspecified
Hardware: PC Windows NT
: P2 normal
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: steve faulkner
QA Contact: HTML WG Bugzilla archive list
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Keywords: a11y, a11ytf
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Reported: 2011-08-03 03:47 UTC by Cynthia Shelly
Modified: 2013-03-30 16:25 UTC (History)
9 users (show)

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Description Cynthia Shelly 2011-08-03 03:47:06 UTC
"The button element represents a button. If the element is not disabled, then the user agent should allow the user to activate the button.

change the should in this sentence to MUST.  Users must be able to activate any non-disabled button.
Comment 1 Anne 2011-08-03 06:21:30 UTC
You cannot activate them in all media. Or e.g. when it is not displayed on the screen.
Comment 2 Michael[tm] Smith 2011-08-04 05:11:53 UTC
mass-move component to LC1
Comment 3 Ian 'Hixie' Hickson 2011-08-12 22:07:12 UTC
EDITOR'S RESPONSE: This is an Editor's Response to your comment. If you are satisfied with this response, please change the state of this bug to CLOSED. If you have additional information and would like the editor to reconsider, please reopen this bug. If you would like to escalate the issue to the full HTML Working Group, please add the TrackerRequest keyword to this bug, and suggest title and text for the tracker issue; or you may create a tracker issue yourself, if you are able to do so. For more details, see this document:
   http://dev.w3.org/html5/decision-policy/decision-policy.html

Status: Rejected
Change Description: no spec change
Rationale: see comment 1.
Comment 4 Cynthia Shelly 2011-12-23 20:46:31 UTC
Can you list the other cases (besides being disabled) where the button can't be activated, so this can be a must?  Being activated is the point of buttons, and non-activatable buttons will be a problem for AT and for users with cognitive issues.
Comment 5 Michael[tm] Smith 2012-01-10 13:37:42 UTC
(In reply to comment #4)
> Can you list the other cases (besides being disabled) where the button can't be
> activated, so this can be a must?  Being activated is the point of buttons, and
> non-activatable buttons will be a problem for AT and for users with cognitive
> issues.

If I understand Anne's comment 1 correctly, what he meant is, you can't activate a button in, e.g., @media print.
Comment 6 Ian 'Hixie' Hickson 2012-01-13 01:41:19 UTC
EDITOR'S RESPONSE: This is an Editor's Response to your comment. If you are satisfied with this response, please change the state of this bug to CLOSED. If you have additional information and would like the editor to reconsider, please reopen this bug. If you would like to escalate the issue to the full HTML Working Group, please add the TrackerRequest keyword to this bug, and suggest title and text for the tracker issue; or you may create a tracker issue yourself, if you are able to do so. For more details, see this document:
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Status: Rejected
Change Description: no spec change
Rationale: 

Indeed. Or if the user agent is any other kind of non-interactive medium (e.g. an electronic billboard).
Comment 7 Cynthia Shelly 2012-01-13 01:42:18 UTC
I meant, can you list other cases, such as print media, IN THE SPEC?
Comment 8 Michael Cooper 2013-01-02 14:55:08 UTC
HTML A11Y TF Bug Triage sub-team notes that there seems to be agreement that there are use cases for not taking the original suggestion up, but what hasn't been closed is putting these use cases into the spec so there won't be further misunderstandings. Re-opening to request editor to put explanations in the spec.
Comment 9 steve faulkner 2013-03-30 16:25:59 UTC
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Status: works for me
Change Description: no spec change
Rationale: the cited text is no longer in HTML 5.1 and I could not find anything similar.