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Bug 13568 - use of "accessible" to refer to placement of UI controls is confusing
Summary: use of "accessible" to refer to placement of UI controls is confusing
Status: VERIFIED FIXED
Alias: None
Product: HTML WG
Classification: Unclassified
Component: LC1 HTML5 spec (show other bugs)
Version: unspecified
Hardware: PC Windows NT
: P2 normal
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: Ian 'Hixie' Hickson
QA Contact: HTML WG Bugzilla archive list
URL: http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/common-i...
Whiteboard:
Keywords: a11y, a11ytf
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
Reported: 2011-08-03 03:41 UTC by Cynthia Shelly
Modified: 2011-12-23 20:34 UTC (History)
9 users (show)

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Description Cynthia Shelly 2011-08-03 03:41:19 UTC
"A user agent may allow the user to override the resulting autocompletion state and set it to always on, always allowing values to be remembered and prefilled), or always off, never remembering values. However, the ability to override the resulting autocompletion state to on should not be trivially accessible, as there are significant security implications for the user if all values are always remembered, regardless of the site's preferences."

Please use a term other than "trivially accessible" and reserve the term "accessible" for accessibility by users with disabilities.
Comment 1 Michael[tm] Smith 2011-08-04 05:35:08 UTC
mass-move component to LC1
Comment 2 Anne 2011-08-16 08:52:13 UTC
Suggestions?
Comment 3 Joshue O Connor 2011-08-16 14:31:21 UTC
(In reply to comment #2)
> Suggestions?

"autocomplete state to on should not be easily accessed.l, as there are..."

should do it.
Comment 4 Ian 'Hixie' Hickson 2011-09-01 00:03:33 UTC
I do not accept the premise that the word "accessible" is reserved for discussing usability by those with disabilities, but I'm fine with changing the wording to be better. However, changing it from "accessible" to "accessed" is both grammatically incorrect and, more importantly, pointless, since those two words both have the same root and thus any confusion that would apply to one would apply equally to the other.

Any other suggestions?
Comment 5 Leif Halvard Silli 2011-09-01 01:47:27 UTC
(In reply to comment #0)

> However, the ability to
> override the resulting autocompletion state to on should not be trivially
> accessible, as there are significant security implications for the user if all
> values are always remembered, regardless of the site's preferences."

Proposal - moving words around etc:

"""
However, the design of the user agent ought to prevent the user from trivially setting the autocompletion state to always on as there are significant security implications for the user if - regardless of sites' preferences and regardless of the user's awareness of it,  all values are always remembered, .
"""
Comment 6 Joshue O Connor 2011-09-01 08:02:30 UTC
(In reply to comment #4)
> I do not accept the premise that the word "accessible" is reserved for
> discussing usability by those with disabilities, but I'm fine with changing the
> wording to be better. 

You have a point. The context however needs to be more clearly described in order to remove the connotation that the usage of the word 'accessible' relates to people with disabilities. If you were to use the form "[...]accessible by [insert User Agent name/ whatever]" then I think the usage is absolutely fine as the context is clearer.

I think its the phrase 'trivially accessible' that is creating the issue here.
Comment 7 Ian 'Hixie' Hickson 2011-09-27 19:36:00 UTC
I don't understand the proposal in comment 6. I used something like comment 5.

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Status: Accepted
Change Description: see diff given below
Rationale: Changing the wording here is not a problem.
Comment 8 contributor 2011-09-27 19:38:04 UTC
Checked in as WHATWG revision r6594.
Check-in comment: tweak the wording
http://html5.org/tools/web-apps-tracker?from=6593&to=6594