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Bug 13439 - Editorial changes to Track element (2 of 3)
Summary: Editorial changes to Track element (2 of 3)
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Alias: None
Product: HTML WG
Classification: Unclassified
Component: LC1 HTML5 spec (show other bugs)
Version: unspecified
Hardware: PC Windows XP
: P2 normal
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: Ian 'Hixie' Hickson
QA Contact: HTML WG Bugzilla archive list
URL: http://www.w3.org/TR/2011/WD-html5-20...
Whiteboard:
Keywords: a11y, a11ytf
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
Reported: 2011-07-28 22:10 UTC by John Foliot
Modified: 2011-08-15 05:39 UTC (History)
8 users (show)

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Description John Foliot 2011-07-28 22:10:04 UTC
current text: (from the @kind table) keyword: captions 

"Transcription or translation of the dialogue, sound effects, relevant musical cues, and other relevant audio information, suitable for when the soundtrack is unavailable (e.g. because it is muted or because the user is deaf). Displayed over the video; labeled as appropriate for the hard-of-hearing."

recommended change:

"Transcription of the dialogue, sound effects, relevant musical cues, and other relevant non-speech audio information, suitable for when the soundtrack is unavailable (e.g., because it is muted) or cannot be perceived (e.g., because the user is deaf or hard-of-hearing). Displayed as an overlay on the video."

filed on behalf of the a11yTF
Comment 1 Michael[tm] Smith 2011-08-04 05:13:13 UTC
mass-move component to LC1
Comment 2 Ian 'Hixie' Hickson 2011-08-13 01:48:14 UTC
What is the problem in the original text that the suggested text fixes?
Comment 3 Silvia Pfeiffer 2011-08-14 05:58:06 UTC
(In reply to comment #2)
> What is the problem in the original text that the suggested text fixes?

Very similar to bug 13440, see http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13440#c3 .
Comment 4 Ian 'Hixie' Hickson 2011-08-15 05:37:52 UTC
EDITOR'S RESPONSE: This is an Editor's Response to your comment. If you are satisfied with this response, please change the state of this bug to CLOSED. If you have additional information and would like the editor to reconsider, please reopen this bug. If you would like to escalate the issue to the full HTML Working Group, please add the TrackerRequest keyword to this bug, and suggest title and text for the tracker issue; or you may create a tracker issue yourself, if you are able to do so. For more details, see this document:
   http://dev.w3.org/html5/decision-policy/decision-policy.html

Status: Partially Accepted
Change Description: see diff given below
Rationale:

So the problem referenced in comment 3 is that saying that an audio track is "unavailable" because the user is deaf is somehow considered insulting.

I asked around and deaf people can perceive audio tracks, they just don't perceive them well enough to distinguish specific words. So I've changed it to "not clearly audible".

I don't understand how the rest of bug 13440 comment 3 applies to the text so I didn't change anything else.
Comment 5 contributor 2011-08-15 05:39:35 UTC
Checked in as WHATWG revision r6458.
Check-in comment: precision
http://html5.org/tools/web-apps-tracker?from=6457&to=6458