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Bug 13438 - "Display over the video" is ambiguous as to whether that relates to the y-axis or the z-axis
Summary: "Display over the video" is ambiguous as to whether that relates to the y-axi...
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Alias: None
Product: HTML WG
Classification: Unclassified
Component: LC1 HTML5 spec (show other bugs)
Version: unspecified
Hardware: PC Windows XP
: P2 normal
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: Ian 'Hixie' Hickson
QA Contact: HTML WG Bugzilla archive list
URL: http://www.w3.org/TR/2011/WD-html5-20...
Whiteboard:
Keywords: a11y, a11ytf
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
Reported: 2011-07-28 22:08 UTC by John Foliot
Modified: 2011-09-23 19:53 UTC (History)
9 users (show)

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Description John Foliot 2011-07-28 22:08:49 UTC
current text: (from the @kind table) keyword: subtitles 

"Transcription or translation of the dialogue, suitable for when the sound is available but not understood (e.g. because the user does not understand the language of the media resource's soundtrack). Displayed over the video."

recommended change:

"Translation of the dialogue, suitable for when the sound is available but not understood (e.g., because the user does not understand the language of the media resource's soundtrack). Displayed as an overlay on the video."

filed on behalf of the a11yTF
Comment 1 Michael[tm] Smith 2011-08-04 05:14:22 UTC
mass-move component to LC1
Comment 2 Ian 'Hixie' Hickson 2011-08-14 06:31:06 UTC
Could you describe the problems being fixed here? It's unclear what exact changes are intentional and which are not, and why they are needed.
Comment 3 Ian 'Hixie' Hickson 2011-08-31 23:34:47 UTC
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Status: Did Not Understand Request
Change Description: no spec change
Rationale: see comment 2
Comment 4 John Foliot 2011-09-01 00:06:57 UTC
(In reply to comment #2)
> Could you describe the problems being fixed here? It's unclear what exact
> changes are intentional and which are not, and why they are needed.


The phrase "Displayed over the video." is ambiguous and unclear. For example, this sentence is displayed over the next paragraph.

This sentence is displayed under the previous sentence.

PROBLEM BEING FIXED:
The request brings editorial clarity and removes editor ambiguity - over, in the context of captions or subtitles, refers to an overlay on top of the video region, and not physically over the video region.
Comment 5 Tab Atkins Jr. 2011-09-01 01:02:43 UTC
(In reply to comment #4)
> (In reply to comment #2)
> > Could you describe the problems being fixed here? It's unclear what exact
> > changes are intentional and which are not, and why they are needed.
> 
> 
> The phrase "Displayed over the video." is ambiguous and unclear. For example,
> this sentence is displayed over the next paragraph.
> 
> This sentence is displayed under the previous sentence.
> 
> PROBLEM BEING FIXED:
> The request brings editorial clarity and removes editor ambiguity - over, in
> the context of captions or subtitles, refers to an overlay on top of the video
> region, and not physically over the video region.

Did you also intend to change "Transcription or translation" to just "Translation"?
Comment 6 Ian 'Hixie' Hickson 2011-09-03 19:46:37 UTC
Ah, I see. I can fix that, sure.
Comment 7 Ian 'Hixie' Hickson 2011-09-23 19:50:22 UTC
EDITOR'S RESPONSE: This is an Editor's Response to your comment. If you are satisfied with this response, please change the state of this bug to CLOSED. If you have additional information and would like the editor to reconsider, please reopen this bug. If you would like to escalate the issue to the full HTML Working Group, please add the TrackerRequest keyword to this bug, and suggest title and text for the tracker issue; or you may create a tracker issue yourself, if you are able to do so. For more details, see this document:
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Status: Accepted
Change Description: see diff given below
Rationale: Concurred with comment 4.
Comment 8 contributor 2011-09-23 19:53:09 UTC
Checked in as WHATWG revision r6577.
Check-in comment: Try to fix potentially confusing terminology.
http://html5.org/tools/web-apps-tracker?from=6576&to=6577