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specify whether use the aria-hidden on an element without using the hidden attribute is conforming. specify whether use the aria-grabbed on an element without using the draggable attribute is conforming. specify whether use the aria-invalid on an element without using the invalid attribute is conforming.
(In reply to comment #0) > specify whether use the aria-invalid on an element without using the invalid > attribute is conforming. What is the invalid attribute?
(In reply to comment #1) > (In reply to comment #0) > > specify whether use the aria-invalid on an element without using the invalid > > attribute is conforming. > > What is the invalid attribute? http://www.w3.org/TR/wai-aria/complete#aria-invalid
(In reply to comment #1) > (In reply to comment #0) > > specify whether use the aria-invalid on an element without using the invalid > > attribute is conforming. > > What is the invalid attribute? Sorry, I now understand that you probably wnted the @invalid listed here: http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/index.html#events-0
(In reply to comment #3) > (In reply to comment #1) > > (In reply to comment #0) > > > specify whether use the aria-invalid on an element without using the invalid > > > attribute is conforming. > > > > What is the invalid attribute? > > Sorry, I now understand that you probably wnted the @invalid listed here: > > http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/index.html#events-0 That's an event type, not an attribute.
(In reply to comment #4) > > Sorry, I now understand that you probably wnted the @invalid listed here: > > > > http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/index.html#events-0 > > That's an event type, not an attribute. Indeed. Citing ARIA: ]] Related Concepts: XForms [XForms] 'invalid' event [[ I guess you meant to say that it should be possible to use @aria-invalid irrespective of whether the invalid event has been fired.
I was unsure about invalid, thanks for clarification leif. the clarification requested is: is it comformaing to have aria-invalid="true" without an invalid event being fired?
(In reply to comment #0) > specify whether use the aria-hidden on an element without using the hidden > attribute is conforming. Yes, why would it not be? There are lots of ways something might be hidden. > specify whether use the aria-grabbed on an element without using the draggable > attribute is conforming. That restriction wouldn't even make sense as far as I can tell. > is it comformaing to have aria-invalid="true" without an invalid event being > fired? Why would it not be? EDITOR'S RESPONSE: This is an Editor's Response to your comment. If you are satisfied with this response, please change the state of this bug to CLOSED. If you have additional information and would like the editor to reconsider, please reopen this bug. If you would like to escalate the issue to the full HTML Working Group, please add the TrackerRequest keyword to this bug, and suggest title and text for the tracker issue; or you may create a tracker issue yourself, if you are able to do so. For more details, see this document: http://dev.w3.org/html5/decision-policy/decision-policy.html Status: Rejected Change Description: no spec change Rationale: I don't really understand what I'm supposed to clarify here. We're not going to add to the HTML spec long paragraphs listing all the things that you are allowed to do with ARIA, that's ARIA's job.
Wish to escalate as not not providing clear information to authors on how aria-* attributes should be used in conjunction with related HTML5 attributes is not helpful to authors.
This has been reviewed by HTML Bug Triage team, not yet a priority we suggest that Stevef verifies the status and adds incorporates any needed changes into the ARIA mapping document.
added to HTML WG Issue http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/129