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Bug 10034 - Document should point to significant studies that underpined decisions
Summary: Document should point to significant studies that underpined decisions
Status: RESOLVED WONTFIX
Alias: None
Product: HTML WG
Classification: Unclassified
Component: HTML5 differences from HTML4 (show other bugs)
Version: unspecified
Hardware: PC All
: P2 normal
Target Milestone: ---
Assignee: Anne
QA Contact: HTML WG Bugzilla archive list
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Reported: 2010-06-29 09:15 UTC by Marcos Caceres
Modified: 2011-04-14 15:01 UTC (History)
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Description Marcos Caceres 2010-06-29 09:15:36 UTC
>>>>> The HTML5 draft reflects an effort, started in 2004, to study
>>>>> contemporary HTML implementations and deployed content.
>>>>
>>>> Where is this study published? What methodology was used to gather the
>>>> results and draw conclusions? Where is the data available?
>>>
>>> To study something does not mean something was published:
>>>
>>> http://www.answers.com/study
>>
>> Thanks for the link. That is true that publishing is not a
>> requirement, but then how did the working group communicate its
>> motivations for getting this work forward? To imply a "study" was
>> conducted also implies that the results of that study were
>> communicated to the community and that the community agreed that
>> something was needed.
>>
>> If you can't produce evidence of who conducted the study and how the
>> results of that study were communicated to the community, then you
>> must remove this section.
>>
>> If it helps jog your memory, studies where done like this one:
>> http://code.google.com/webstats/, which has evidently [1] underpinned
>> some of decisions made by the editor of HTML5 - and shared within the
>> community to sway opinion. Please reference it as at least one study.
>>
>> [1] "http://code.google.com/webstats/" site:http://w3.org/
>>
>> The reason it must be listed is that, as I mentioned above, people
>> should be able to ascertain the historical decisions that lead to the
>> creation of HTML5. People should also be able to scrutinize the
>> methodology and results that was used in the study (particularly the
>> one above, even if it only played a small role in the overall effort).
>
> It is a single sentence explaining something. Of course I know about
> /webstats/ and the tens (if not hundreds) of issues I reported with
> HTML5 over the course of five years with respect to it matching or not
> matching contemporary implementations. But this is a single sentence and
> making more out of it is not worth it. The /webstats/ document will be
> around for a long time, W3C Bugzilla will be around as long as the /TR/
> pages most likely, and the HTML and WHATWG mailing list archives
> probably too. Tons of research can be done on our research.

The paragraph above is exactly what I what I want to see in the document :)
Comment 1 Simon Pieters 2011-04-14 15:01:01 UTC
EDITOR'S RESPONSE: This is an Editor's Response to your comment. If you are
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Status: Rejected
Change Description: no spec change
Rationale: Agreed with reporter in private email to close this bug.