Meeting minutes
<janina> brb
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New Member Introductions
Task Force Updates (email archive broken link, Mission Statement Update, etc)
janina: we need to update our mission statement, should be cleared up
… , will post link.
… , flag any issues with Janina
Fazio_: Everyone getting email messages?
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janina: everything for this group is linked from this URL
Zakim take up item 3
Check in With Brian on Github Issue #42 w3c/maturity-model#42
Brian: we have a lot of different departments, 7-8 business unites within our department. each unit will do the entire assessment. Some sections will not be applicable.
… , at Intel, OKR approach.
… , proof points at Quarterly results to be able to track.
… , not started with scoring yet, but business unit seems straight forward.
… , can vary per business unit. our goal is to have a dashboard (HTML data report) to show visibility How to report a11y of company as a whole. aggregate score for all business units.
… , does it make sense And/Or of each score. do we look into a weighting, for a sense of priority for the company.
… , a11y policy trumps an empathy lab. Are we maturing in the more important areas.
… , would we need different templates, lesser amount of proof points say 3 proof points. Could add more once reach a certain threshold.
… , company over 100K and falling we only have 4 a11y people will take a while to get this maturity rolled out. Some units will require more help than others.
Fazio_: we want accountability not really about scoring. There is no end game it constantly will evolve.
jlkline: This is great, perfect example, indicates that impossible for the team to create a process on how to use it because diversity of those using it could be overwhelming.
… , we should come up with a way to collection of organization best practices on how they approached this if they want to share, page on best practices based on size, public/private/non-profit. with regards to scoring, its not about scoring, its a tool to help companies evolve.
… , A government body may require a report on a companies maturity in a11y.
<Fazio_> ack, janina
jlkline: , you may want to include metrics on what is accessible and not. maturity could be 1 dimension, policies, procurement
Brian: Sorry I have to leave.
<Fazio_> "nested approach" I like that. Maybe we should identify possible approaches
janina: Thanks Brian. Organizations need to be flexible and make it work for their organization. looks like a nested approach for each business group, still need to figure out how to collate and correlate the data. we could have examples Large Tech has taken the nested approach. Example 2 some other type of organization, etc.
… , best practices Note track document, custom fit. similar patterns we should find a way to capture this.
<Fazio_> ack, mark
Mark_Miller: scoring mechanism how to aggregate that so the organization can figure out where they are in their journey.
… , that measure / scoring from organization level wouldn't have to be a aggregate from each business unit. custom fit, criteria how well the organization is doing overall not on a particular business unit is at.
Fazio_: totally up to the organization on how to use this.
Sheri_B-H: WCAG 3.0 may incorporate in Bronze/Silver/Gold type scoring.
Fazio_: Carrot vs. Stick, disability quality index, is all carrot and no stick.
… , we are trying to find a happy medium.
<Fazio_> I love that "framework for telling your a11y story (or journey)"
janina: its a framework there may be multiple ways to aggregate accrose larger organization. "knowing whats left to do", way to capturing things.
Fazio_: Issue # 17
<Joshue108> Sorry, gotta drop!
<Joshue108> bye
Fazio_: Have we addressed this in our discussions today?
<jlkline> queue 1+
Sheri_B-H: scoring is separate.
Fazio_: once we get the PR done, we can have Jason look at this. its a step. we can always add more.
Sheri_B-H: may need to respond to this in pieces.
janina: we are intentionally not prescriptive and value flexibility.
… , there might be reasons why a certain group is more a11y than others.
… , we are keeping this open as we catch multiple examples. we may never have a complete example but will work on adding more examples.
<jlkline> key word from janina is "capture" not "create"
New Business
Fazio_: we have multiple people who are not part of W3C, and may be reluctant to join W3C at present.
… , We could have some guest speakers, and could join us from time to time.
janina: APA chair can add invited guests
… , I will raise this with new W3C management on how we can do this more efficiently and effectively. when folks are interested in a very specific area not over the entire W3C space.