– DRAFT –
Maturity Model Subgroup

Retirement Announced

<janina> https://www.w3.org/blog/2022/10/stepping-forward-on-wai-management/

Janina: Judy Brewer is retiring, see the link https://www.w3.org/blog/2022/10/stepping-forward-on-wai-management/

discussion re: W3C transition to legal entity

Review and Group Github Issues

David: 76 open issues, 18 closed (closed issues are from internal comments that came pre-FPWD)

Fazio__: discussing how many issues are open in the github repository

David: Many issues are from the Maturity Model subgroup

Sheri: we should prioritize comments from outside the subgroup

Janina: Look at issues from Jason White and have him on next week's call

Janina - he will be in Australia for a while, the time zone isn't friendly

<Fazio__> Address the accessibility of entire processes in the Maturity Model. #137: https://github.com/w3c/maturity-model/issues/137

Lionel asks Fazio__ - can you drop here a link to the git?

Lionel says, got it (https://github.com/w3c/maturity-model/)

Sheri_B-H: The issue indicates non-digital accessibility issues. W3C (and WAI and APA) do not have a mandate for non-digital accessibility.

Sheri_B-H: We may wish to add a statement indicating that the model addresses only digital

Fazio__: The model could ecompass non-digital experiences

Lionel: Jason's issue seems to examine the entire process behind any individual proof point, and if any part of that process is inaccessible, he asks if that should be flagged

Fazio__: We were considering the entire process

janina: A conversation with Jason would clarify this

Sheri_B-H: Proposes a sentence to add to the Maturity Model intro, to clarify that the scope is digital

Because WAI does not have a mandate outside of digital, it is impossible for the Maturity Model to address elements such as physical spaces or devices. It is possible for businesses to extend the Maturity Model to include dimensions such as these.

Sheri: Propose that we add something like this to the introduction

David: substitute W3C for WAI

Non-digital components are out of scope for W3C. Therefore they are out of scope for the Maturity Model to address elements such as physical spaces or devices. It is possible for businesses to extend the Maturity Model to include dimensions such as these.

+1 to Fazio saying, let's be cautious and say less

Fazio__: We should be cautious to not limit the maturity model

Brian: Today at Intel, we have been expanding the scope of the maturity model outside of W3C's scope

Brian: We saw it as a great foundation, a template that could be expanded to cover this scope

Brian: There is the word "web" everywhere, and I found myself removing that word to ensure the wider scope.

Fazio__: Should we have examples of organizations that have successfully used the model?

Sheri_B-H: We have discussed having use cases. A large company indicated at TPAC that they were interested.

Lionel_Wolberger: Sounds like case studies are more like what we are looking at.

Fazio__: Then we are decided, we would like to do case studies. What organizations will we approach?

Sheri: Proposed case studies - VMware, Intel, Goldman Sachs, Benetech

need some smaller companies too

and probably should be anonymous when included in the document "large cloud software company" for example

Janina: need to re-review the document and eliminate unnecessary uses of the word web

We have three possibilities: An American multinational corporation; A large epub provider; A large finance leader

Janina: Will invite Jason to the next meeting. Health and schedule willing, hopefully he can be there

Jason's second point: do all the proof points have to be digital?

Brian: The assessment template makes most sense currently for a small to medium sized organization
… When collecting evidence for the proof points in a multinational corporation across multiple business units
… like working with a sales group as opposed to a marketing group
… the proof points vary widely from the different groups

janina: In order for a large corporate entity to show that they have done the best we can,
… due to the fact that we have independent business units
… we had to collate many proof points across many different departments
… and we simply report maturity overall, but we can present the detailed evidence if asked.

Sheri_B-H: The model is intended to be used by a segment of the organization

can be used, not is intended to be used

Brian: Then the challenge of how to roll it all up into one report, remains

s\intended to be used\can be used

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