W3C

Accessibility Conformance Testing Teleconference

23 Jun 2022

Attendees

Present
ChrisLoiselle, Helen, Wilco, kathy, trevor
Regrets
Daniel
Chair
Wilco
Scribe
kathy

Contents


<scribe> scribe: kathy

Call for consensus: Audio element content has text alternative

wilco: CFC last Friday, got one +1 and no objections
... No issues, accepted.

RESOLUTION: Accept Audio element content has text alternative

Call for consensus: Element with aria-hidden has no content in sequential focus navigation

wilco: second CFC last week, one +1 and no objections

RESOLUTION: Accept Element with aria-hidden has no content in sequential focus navigation

ACT rules sheet

wilco: meta viewport allows for zoom has been merged, fairly minor change
... propose a CFC

RESOLUTION: Move "Meta viewport allows for zoom" to CFC

helen: object element and iframe need updates

trevor: role attribute - jean yves has a separate PR with suggestions

wilco: should CG have more time?

trevor: sure

chris: HTML graphics - PR should be ready to approve

wilco: 3 surveys open. Hoping to do more surveys. If 3 is too much, let us know.
... due before next week's meeting

<Wilco> https://github.com/w3c/wcag-act-rules/pull/120

wilco: this PR moves 3 rules from proposed to approved
... and updates approved rules

<Wilco> https://deploy-preview-120--wai-wcag-act-rules.netlify.app/standards-guidelines/act/rules/73f2c2/

wilco: able to show a version history. Rule Versions heading replaces change log. Added each version (proposed, latest, and previous)
... Implementations are only shown on approved and proposed rule (not older versions).

<Wilco> https://services.w3.org/htmldiff?doc1=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2FWAI%2Fstandards-guidelines%2Fact%2Frules%2F73f2c2%2F&doc2=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2FWAI%2Fstandards-guidelines%2Fact%2Frules%2F73f2c2%2Fproposed%2F

wilco: showing diff
... from "compare" link

trevor: why always show the proposed version?

wilco: can only show proposed version if there is a change
... can hide proposed one

trevor: I would've thought the proposed would show updates
... are implementations only showing if latest version is implemented? would it be good to add a column for older versions?

wilco: have to figure out how to do that. Implementation table is relevant only to the page (version) its on

<ChrisLoiselle> On Rule Versions bulleted items - for the third bullet, do we want to have the wording of historical or deprecated prior to the date? Similar to bullet 1 and 2 Proposed and Latest?

kathy: change link to Proposed Updates if date is later than Latest version

wilco: I can make that work
... Implementation tables are now dynamically generated
... added Type col, and implementation's version number

chris: add previous version and then dates for other versions

wilco: I will make the change

<scribe> ... new content going live tomorrow

kathy: open in a new tab was not working for me

wilco: might be a version thing
... latest and proposed open in a new tab
... this will get fixed tomorrow
... will take a look

Open ACT pull requests

wilco: #1873 adding reviewers helen, kathy, wilco
... skipping aria work
... will close #1858 based on chris and wilco conversation. change not necessary.

Announcing ACT implementations

wilco: want to intro this, but wait for Daniel for details
... implementation tables - 5 active implementers, 2 working to get their data in
... major development, want visibility for this work
... w3c can tweet, announce on news page
... will write a blog post
... Daniel wants to wait on announcement until "coming soon" implementations are added
... when can we remove "under development" banner

kathy: agree to wait for the coming soon data if it is coming soon

wilco: yes, they are expected soon
... want to review rules that don't map to wcag
... Type column data: wcag and non-wcag rules

trevor: ok with releasing even with small changes needed

wilco: agree
... suggest talking with your marketing dept to help promote

<Wilco> https://wai-wcag-act-rules.netlify.app/standards-guidelines/act/implementations/

Rules Format and state

trevor: Issue #1836 state transition definition and examples
... questions in bullets under examples
... is this format helpful for our discussion?

wilco: change in definition of focusable - something isn't focusable if it redirects focus within a second
... also, what if we had definitions that we know are subjective and allowed in applicability

trevor: how to constrain the language in the rule to more programmatic is the challenge

chris: would loading icon be an example

trevor: search example - yes if loading icon shows while results are found provide the status message. Transition is a state.
... how to tell people to test the transitions between states

Summary of Action Items

Summary of Resolutions

  1. Accept Audio element content has text alternative
  2. Accept Element with aria-hidden has no content in sequential focus navigation
  3. Move "Meta viewport allows for zoom" to CFC
[End of minutes]

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