Meeting minutes
Overview of the Overview with Silver meeting
MC: I wanted to bring Todd up to speed
<gives overview>
JOC: I think it went well
MC: Jake was concerned we would be redoing work.
MC: One of the categories is the Unit or component level, Views and Aggregates
We tried to put each SC into these categories
We have different test types - conditioned tests
Test cases - and some of a more structured approach - and Protocols
MC: The whats tested is seperate.
JOC: We've been coming from a top down perspective, and this excersice was useful as it was bottom up.
MC: The intent was to map things to user needs
And in the preamble - we also mapped to the functional needs this group is working on
MC: I found that some SCs had a clear mapping to functional needs
but not clear mapping to user needs
and vice versa
The functional category mapped to a lot
Likely because of the assumption of AT use
JOC: Thats interesting Michael
MC: I'd like to figure out how to unpick that
JOC: +1
MC: Things are looking more muddy..
JOC: A lot of people with disabilities may not use AT at all, they can use browser or OS settings.
MC: Some of the keyboard a11y things would apply to me, but not the functional need.
JOC: We may be missing what the browser and OS bring to the table
MC: Does it mean the WCAG SCs that assume AT being used are more like methods in WCAG 3?
There may need to rethink.
JOC: If we are finding things that are not being caught then the model is incomplete right?
MC: Yes
MC: We should look at these things and try to work that out
JOC: MC, can you ping the list with your thoughts?
MC will write up structural questions about our model - to factor in where AT may not be used.
JOC: We are making assumptions
MC: Yes, unspoken assumptions
JOC: This is useful
MC: An assumption of WCAG 2 but not 3 yet, as we are not that far.
MC: I think because the mapping to functional needs didn't quite work shows something interesting
MC: AT specific stuff may be more methods than outcomes
The original matrix is sorta 2D - whereas the sheet used on meeting was 3D.
We have to make sure we don't add too many dimensions.
JOC: We need to have Jake for this.
MC: Jakes vision is good, I want us to support it - it is early days, incomplete etc and will need to iterate.
Selling the vision will be a part of that process.
MC: Our foundation is good
We have some items that may not fit neatly but we are not sure where.
the iteration could change some of the structure
JOC: Iterating is hard - need to ensure fundamentals our sound.
JOC: I name checked the deceptive patterns stuff yesterday on our call
TL: Update from Todd
TL: I've added some items, and comments
Removed failure and replaced it with barriers
JOC: Lets review on upcoming call - or via email
TD: Looked into the issue 'Required to click to “read me” - its still not clear.
JOC: I suggest we remove
TD: Ok
https://
JOC: Notes we will have the A11y for Children IG joining again on the 29th
Thats a Tues
Remove ¨silver¨ from channel name
<MichaelC> suggest a11y-functional
<Todd> +1
+1
MC: Lets use that in the future