<scribe> scribe: kathyeng
wilco: as of this week, jean-yves is taking over as chair of ACT Rules CG
helen: congratulations
wilco: will continue as facilitator for TF
wilco: next 3 meetings canceled
wilco: CFC went out to AG
yesterday to approve this update. Approved content but needs
approval to publish.
... will happen soon
daniel: will publish in January. CFC ends Dec 20.
trevor: line height, view port specified by jean-yves. want to avoid wrap on zoom in.
<Wilco> w3ccommunity.slack.com
kathyeng: need to contact Carlos about PRs for aria hidden has no focusable content
<dmontalvo> https://github.com/act-rules/act-rules.github.io/issues/1770
wilco: element with
presentational children is ready to merge
... put assumption that IDs are unique
... checked with Andrew Kirkpatrick who is not keen on a unique
ID rule
... consider deprecating
... AWK thinks 4.1.1 parsing failures can be reported under
other SCs
... if header ID in a table is duplicated, a failure of the
table header could be reported
... the rules Ready for AG, call for review went in this
week.
wilco: 33 open PRs
... PR 1756 can go out for call for review
helen: thanks trevor for your
reviews
... made changes to 1748
wilco: survey has 7
responses
... passed ex 2 comment from kathy, link works with a
mouse
... that passing examples should pass all SC is in rule design
document but not in rules format
... agree pass example 2 needs to be changed
... karen's comment on pass ex 3
karen: many ways to make
something not visible, need better parameters
... for automated testing
wilco: would need a lot of test cases for each way.
karen: implementors may have
rules just for these test cases, but doesn't show that all ways
have been covered
... automated test for visible is difficult
wilco: feel free to submit test cases to cover more
karen: definition of visible seems incomplete
wilco: wilco comment on Q7 on
applicability and expectation
... applicability would be iframes with focusable content,
expectation would be iframe does not have non-neg tabindex
kathyeng: agree suggestion makes more sense
wilco: noting discussion points in survey conclusion area
trevor: second sentence of
expectation confusing
... not totally against it
... the first sentence was adequate
wilco: instead of "include" use
"contain" and link to "container document"?
... maybe not needed
... Q8, Jenn comment about non-functioning button
... work needed on this rule, not accepted. Karen is
liaison
... Heading survey has 4 rejects
... Q5 lots of comments
... some AT ignore empty headings. whitespace chars sometimes
cause problems.
... white space chars wouldn't fail this rule
helen: reviewed a different rule. remove my survey results.
karen: rule does follow wcag for non-headings
wilco: we are divided on this, need to go to AG