W3C

Accessibility Conformance Testing Teleconference

09 Sep 2021

Attendees

Present
aron, Wilco, trevor, shadi, KarenHerr, Daniel, kathyeng
Regrets
Chair
Wilco
Scribe
KarenHerr

Contents


<scribe> scribe: KarenHerr

ACT rules sheet

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<Wilco> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1OSkPFocXk4K3zYLnwS78WLsWO4PvE5yRcsauyefuIUI/edit#gid=0

Wilco: added Open Issues column with links to github
... all approved, blockers have been merged. rules will be migrated.
... Last approved, last updated columns not filled in yet

Update website migration

Wilco: not much has progressed since two weeks ago
... Shadi has taken up the mantle
... will do a soft launch until we figure out page navigation
... did not receive final confirmation from AG chairs to publish

Kathy: it may have come up during AG call. they may need more information

Wilco: will connect with Rachel
... anything else website related? next is to migrate test scripts over
... will add another 1000 files. Then will link to rules pages
... generate implementation tables automatically rather than by hand

Open ACT pull requests

<Wilco> https://github.com/act-rules/act-rules.github.io/pulls

Wilco: 1705 Trevor. autocomplete
... change 4 but leave three. I will review this. need two others

Kathy: sure

Aron: i'll do it

Wilco: next a couple of drafts.

Aron: should it be reviewed now or after aria 1.2? issue with context role.

Wilco: community group wants to have pull requests and move over to aria 1.2

Daniel: might be re-issuing candidate recommendation
... will be soon,but not in next couple of weeks

Kathy: made edits to accessibility tree 1684
... ready for review again. difference of opinion on moving to background section

Wilco: assigned to Wilco, Aron, karen
... next 1683 line height

Trevor: still on my to do list

Wilco: assign Trevor as liaison

Aron: look up my last comment. statement only true when aria-hidden

Wilco: items with aria-hidden are hidden from accessibility tree.

Aron: definition of hidden state is "programmatically hidden". programmatically hidden is "display: none" (example)

Wilco: this is 1684.

<aron> https://act-rules.github.io/glossary/#hidden-state

Aron: html hidden and display: none are different from aria-hidden.

Wilco: kathy can up merge 1674

Kathy: I'll do it

Aron: 1548 I've made some changes.

Wilco: it's a difficult one
... tons of people assigned

Aron: maybe conversation with the community group

Wilco: will add to list for community group

Surveying proposed rules

Wilco: I think we've discussed all of these

Aron: I think we have

Wilco: this needs to be worked on - just made a liaison.

Trevor: Will take care of it

Kathy: you can ignore comment on q4

wilco: Aron says 1688 needs to be resolved
... niche edge case comfortable with publishing

Aron: yes, niche case. would be good to look at. no issue with majority agreeing to move forward

Kathy: I think we discussed Q7 comment on previous surveys

Wilco: can move forward with the rule without this
... ready to publish. (survey 3) we are ready to publish even with known minor issues. does anyone disagree?
... let's put in a resolution

RESOLUTION: word-spacing rule ready for AG
... word-spacing rule ready for AG

Wilco: Survey 4. Q3 Trevor's comment
... Q4, Kathy's comment. combine sentences

Kathy: combine sentence with next sentence

Wilco: will add a meeting notes column - will add to to-do list
... Q6 open issues. should be resolved before publishing
... Q8
... add comment - final call one week. 1675
... Aron can send out call for review

Aron: sure

Wilco: hopefully approve this next week
... Survey 5. Q4 Wilco comment none of the implementations are complete
... untested scenarios in all of them
... can't take to AG until complete
... Q6 1702 already merged
... Q7 discuss how to include rules that don't map to wcag.

Trevor: didn't we have aria rules that were similar?

Wilco: these are useful, and might be good to have them linked

Aron: how would you group it? best practices?

Wilco: would AG be up for linking to them?

Kathy: will we look at these as critically as the rules we have requirements for?

Wilco: when we take these, we propose where to do cross linking. if we had a list of techniques or pages to link from, should that be added?
... list placed in background section
... find out where they go, open up pull request to add links to Background section. Karen?

Karen: Yes

Kathy: on rule tracker, would it be helpful to mark a way that doesn't have accessibility requirements?

Wilco: yes, will add to to-do list
... one more survey for next week. new survey for next week.

Summary of Action Items

Summary of Resolutions

  1. word-spacing rule ready for AG
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