W3C

– DRAFT –
ARIA WG

22 April 2021

Attendees

Present
Aaron, carmacleod_, Greta, jamesn, Jaunita, JCraig, Jemma, Joanmarie_Diggs, MarkMccarthy, Matt_King, Scott, Siri, William
Regrets
CurtB, Cynthia, MelSumner, PeterK
Chair
JamesNurthen
Scribe
carmacleod

Meeting minutes

https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/1d223877-730c-446f-bfa9-2e9222902112/20210422T130000

[New Issue Triage](https://bit.ly/32vX311)

https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/1466

scott: 1.3, and I'll take it

https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/1463

<jamesn> https://github.com/w3c/aria/discussions/1469?converting=1

aaron: is the rule about whether you can use aria-roledescription on the explicit role or the computed role?

https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/1462

jamesn: editorial, 1.3, assigning myself

[New PR Triage](https://bit.ly/2Pd8Qyc)

https://github.com/w3c/aria/pull/1468

jamesn: I will review that

https://github.com/w3c/aria/pull/1467

scott: want ua to not expose descendant links to be set to disabled state. Need help making it clear in the spec: don't do that

jamesn: need 3 reviewers

https://github.com/w3c/aria/pull/1465

jamesn: will review and merge

https://github.com/w3c/aria/pull/1464

jamesn: any volunteer reviewers

jcraig: I'll review

MarkMccarthy: add me

siri: I can review

https://github.com/w3c/aria/pull/1460

jamesn: carolyn is down as a reviewer, need one more

jcraig: add me

https://github.com/w3c/aria/pull/1457

jamesn: I'll review. anyone else?

Jemma: I can review

juanita: I can partner with someone to review

jcraig: I can partner

[Meaty topic for next week](https://bit.ly/3v8tUoQ)

jamesn: roledescription on May 6

jamesn: may have to move dataviz part 2 to either next week or 3 weeks time

[Charter](https://raw.githack.com/w3c/aria/charter-2021/charter.html)

<jamesn> https://www.w3.org/2021/04/22-aria-dive-minutes.html

jamesn: draft of charter. proposing moving everything except aria to living standard, so AAMs, etc

jamesn: this is what the browsers are doing anyhow

mck: including accname

jamesn: that's my proposal. please look at the draft and discuss

jamesn: the only question is do we do the same thing for aria itself

jamesn: there would still be an editor's draft, and you move something into the main branch when it has tests and implementations

mck: I thought the main branch was the editor's draft and there's a stable branch

jamesn: yes, actually, that's what i meant

jamesn: let's start a discussion thread around the charter and whether or not we should go with living standard for the aria spec

aaron: I think it comes down to what different stakeholders get out of the aria spec

jamesn: there are some organizations that won't use an editor's draft

jamesn: although thy use the HTML spec, and it's a living standard

scott: actually, whatwg is putting out snapshots now to address that problem

aaron: would be nice to know that something is the spec is not going to be removed

jamesn: agreed

mck: agreed

[onboarding?](https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/1401)

<Jemma> https://github.com/w3c/aria/wiki/Onboaring

jamesn: jemma has created an onboarding wiki page

<Jemma> https://github.com/w3c/onboarding/pull/19

Jemma: I will add to this after JamesC's onboarding session today

mck: wiki pages need some protocol re providing feedback and editing the wiki page

carmacleod_: comment in the issue and then make the change?

[Add role=image as synonym for role=img](https://github.com/w3c/aria/pull/1370)

jamesn: need mck to approve

Proposal - Back out new naming mechanisms from 1.3

jamesn: we had 2 new concepts: name from encapsulation, name from legend

jamesn: received feedback from an implementor that this was going to have massive performance implications

aaron: who was that?

jamesn: it was you, aaron

aaron: I don't remember the discussion - was it in some other context?

jamesn: I believe you didn't want to complicate the name computation, because it's already complicated and fragile

aaron: this is when we were going to do role=label? There are already other ways to do this, so this is not needed

aaron: it's just a "nice to have"

mck: we were doing role parity, and this would provide more parity between html and aria in the way you do things

<siri> +1 Matt and Aaron

jamesn: we are at time, will put this on the agenda for next week. need to close on this because we either need to move it forward for aria 1.3 or take it out

Minutes manually created (not a transcript), formatted by scribe.perl version 127 (Wed Dec 30 17:39:58 2020 UTC).

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