W3C

– DRAFT –
Accessible Platform Architectures Working Group Teleconference

06 January 2021

Attendees

Present
janina, jasonjgw, joconnor, JPaton_, scott_h
Regrets
-
Chair
jasonjgw
Scribe
scott_h

Meeting minutes

RTC Accessibility User Requirements (RAUR) open issues.

josh: starting to work through RAUR issues

NEW Use Case Pinning audio output #118

<joconnor> https://github.com/w3c/apa/issues/118

josh: new use case for pinning audio output

josh: mutkple use cases fo rpinning something, different items for different TTS/audio items

janina: does that make sense?

jjason: direct to channels via shortcut key

<joconnor> There may be a broader issue around the use of the term pinning

<joconnor> is it relevant for this case?

janina: eg pinning parts of screen to braille display

<joconnor> SH: It makes sense to me.

scott: makes sense o tme

<Zakim> joconnor, you wanted to say it could be a useful catch all

josh: good t ohave catch-all term, pinning = sticking something on screen, whatever that is

janina: eg who's speaking, what message came up in chat,

josh: good to define that

use cases: audio, Brialle,

jason: status messages

e.g. who jsut arrive din ameeting, conveyed via status message

josh: issue of atomic intersting - audio, brialle, routing options

josh: we also have teh generic use case of routing tihngs in RAUR< cross-link

josh: currently have window anchoring/pinning,

three requirements: ability to pin (sign language/interpreter), flexible pnnning of captions, e.g. second screen rdevices

differential is the atomic idea

janina: yes, all from WCAG ACT, atomic tests.

Zoom have variet of views constructed on-the-fly.

josh: so need to add atomic and current pices of data: who's speaking, lat message, etc to pin that as new requirement

added to first one - 1(d) ensure that atomic pieces of date

in relaiton to who is speaking, last message was, can be pinned in user interface

janina: given we're using both ZOom and IRC, may need two sign language - multiple streams requriements?

judy: have been in meetings with 3,4 speech interpreters - not speculative

josh: yes e.g. ISL and BSL

<janina> https://www.evertype.com/standards/iso639/sgn.html

josh: have new text, updated

WebRTC needs mechanism to handle the metadata needed to re-aggregate Pinned audio content #119

<joconnor> https://github.com/w3c/apa/issues/119

jason: complicated that some devices can come and go, display could all happen in midst of a session

josh: mentioned that if we have mutliple atomic data points for Braille spacing

didn't know you could break up Brialle dispaly - great example

jason: there are status cells, ways to put different informationin

janin: yes, but can you update cells some cells without others?

jason: yes, but the user wouldn't know

<joconnor> JOC: Adding a reference to sending atomic content to different sections of the braille display would be helpful to readers to understand the user need for atomic output

josh: back to the point on referring functionality within Brialle output - would help RAUR readers understanding atomic

janina: not much difference from a tabular display: file, size, etc.

josh: yes, but not common knowledge

<joconnor> JOC: Can you route live region output to different sections of a braille display?

<joconnor> JS: Not yet

jason: complicated when there is mutliple channels of information coming in and only one channel output

janina makes point that ARIA is about screen readers and speech, not screen readers and Brialle

jasoN: how's it looking regading this issue?

josh: still need to address what metadata means in this context

josh: making the point that atomic items may not be pinned next ot each other, but may have relationship

how do we capture dependencies/mechanisms?

janina: let the user deifne that?

jason: this paragraph/seciton will need some work, need discusson on github or list

josh: agreed, will come back with suggestions

Future Task Force publication opportunities and the APA Working Group Charter proposal.

jason: the APA working group is preparaing proposal for new charter,

need to include deliverables inlcuding non-normative Note track

need to discuss with APA before end of month

janina: would like to send new charter end Jan/early Feb

how to discuss our work in a proposed charter

judy: good to be specificlly on technical reports that RQTF publishing through APA

however RQTF is also exploratory

RQTF was taken from a preexisitng working group, restrctivie to take research questions - new area that needs deeper dive

RQTF doing well - good to take a fresh look

jason: will discuss what we want ot work on

has been some discussion on MAUR as revision opportunity

are there other things?

janina: think about that and start next week

need scope to explore - eg new things to add to RAUR

can also point to work done eg CAPTCHA

judy: also consider focus on scope with more flexible deliverables

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