<pkra> I think the dial-in and the webex is out of sync.

<pkra> I'm hearing Sina ok.

<pkra> James, Carolyn, Tzviya are super choppy on the dial-in

<pkra> webex caught corona?

<scribe> scribe: carmacleod

jcraig: Introduction, working more on standards now, and I plan to attend more of these calls

<Jemma> welcome back to your home!

car: awesome, and welcome!

Dublin F2F status

jamesn: if you haven't already booked travel to Dublin, do not book it now
... joanie cannnot attend F2F, I still can attend at this point, but that may be cancelled

Future Meetings

jamesn: we were not going to meet next week due to CSUN, but maybe we can have a call?

<pkra> +1

jamesn: no objections, so propose we meet next week

New Issue Triage

<jamesn> https://github.com/search?l=&q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+repo%3Aw3c%2Faria+created%3A%3E%3D2020-02-27+repo%3Aw3c%2Faria+repo%3Aw3c%2Faccname+repo%3Aw3c%2Fcore-aam&type=Issues

Scott_O: https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/1210
... need to explicitly state one way or the other which way aria-modal defaults t/f

aaronlev: tried to make NVDA work the same as JAWS - virtual cursor does not wander outside dialog

Scott_O: dialog acts as if aria-modal=true even if not set on it

mck: hard to get out of non-modal dialog

<jcraig> I will comment on the issue 1210

bryan: https://github.com/w3c/accname/issues/79
... needs discussion

jamesn: this is triage, so please at people in the issue

car: https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/1209 - marked as 1.3 - think about it later

joanie: https://github.com/w3c/core-aam/issues/67

New PR Triage

https://github.com/search?l=&q=is%3Aopen+is%3Apr+repo%3Aw3c%2Faria+created%3A%3E%3D2020-02-27+repo%3Aw3c%2Faria+repo%3Aw3c%2Faccname+repo%3Aw3c%2Fcore-aam&type=Issues

https://github.com/w3c/aria/pull/1208

https://github.com/w3c/aria/pull/1207/

jamesc: I will review

Wide Review Comments with PRs

https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=is%3Aopen+label%3A%22WR+comments%22+label%3A%22has+PR%22+

<aaronlev> cmd+shift+m to mute webex on mac

<aaronlev> it's a toggle

<aaronlev> maybe ctrl+shift+m on windows?

Linked PR for https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/1033 is https://github.com/w3c/aria/pull/1162

<aaronlev> actually, ctrl+m, according to google

jamesn: maybe we can finish this one off for Wilco? I'll ping him.

Wide Review Comments without PRs

https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=is%3Aopen+label%3A%22WR+comments%22+-label%3A%22has+PR%22+

PR: https://github.com/w3c/aria/pull/1181

<BGaraventa> think I found a way to disable echo

<tzviya> i will review 1181

https://github.com/w3c/aria/pull/1181

jamesn: adding Mark & Curt as reviewers

https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/1178

mck: I'll do a PR for this

https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/1177

jamesn: moving to 1.3 unless objections

https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/1173

jamesn: asked Wilco if we can close 21 days ago, no response, closing

https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/1164

jamesn: created a draft PR, carmacleod added comments that I will address
... still need to remove the previous code

https://github.com/w3c/aria/pull/1163

jamesn: we may need to take this over from Wilco

MarkMccarthy: I can review also

jamesn: https://github.com/w3c/aria/pull/1151
... I'll try to get to that this week

https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/1150

Scott_O: I will get to that this week

Support aria-description

<jamesn> https://github.com/w3c/accname/pull/69

aaronlev: this was a smaller change, but last week we decided to change the name of the third section to reduce confusion
... added a table to incorporate places where html affects description

jamesn: jcraig do you want to review this one as well?

jcraig: sure

Scott_O: I will take a harder look at this to see if anything needs to change in HTML AAM or HTML ARIA now that there's overlap

<BGaraventa> yes

aaronlev: I pushed the change to change the name based on Jamie Teh's comments

meter role should have optional aria-valuemin/max with defaults

<jamesn> https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/1123

PR: https://github.com/w3c/aria/pull/1129

<Jemma> this is relevant to ARIA APG issue https://raw.githack.com/w3c/aria-practices/zcorpan/range-related-properties-2/aria-practices.html#range_related_properties

<Jemma> https://raw.githack.com/w3c/aria-practices/zcorpan/range-related-properties-2/aria-practices.html#range_related_properties_using_aria-valuemin_aria-valuemax_and_aria-valuenow

aaronlev: does this cover where aria-valuemax does not have a value? i.e. like an indeterminate progressbar?

<Jemma> thank you James.

carmacleod: that's another issue

When is hidden content taken into calculation of name and description?

<Jemma> then I can finish the APG issue.

<jamesn> https://github.com/w3c/accname/issues/57

carmacleod: not sure if this needs to be resolved for 1.2? It has existed for a while.

mck: APG doesn't currently cover this well
... need to ask aaronlev and jcraig how their algorithms work

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