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Accessible Rich Internet Applications Working Group Teleconference

03 Oct 2019

Attendees

Present
Joanmarie_Diggs, janina, jamesn, pkra, Scott_OHara, MichaelC, Dorothy, harris, carmacleod, Matt_King
Regrets
CurtBellew, IrfanAli
Chair
JamesNurthen
Scribe
Scott_O, carmacleod

Contents


<Scott_O> present Scott_O'Hara

<Scott_O> scribe: Scott_O

New Issue Triage

<jamesn> https://github.com/search?l=&q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+repo%3Aw3c%2Faria+created%3A%3E%3D2019-09-26+repo%3Aw3c%2Faria+repo%3Aw3c%2Faccname+repo%3Aw3c%2Fcore-aam&type=Issues

https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/1063

which aria attributes apply to descendant elements?

JN: let's do 1.3

<pkra> +1

https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/1074

pr in for this

https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/1076

consider deprecating role=directory

<pkra> +1

not a lot of time left for 1.2, but if we want to do this we should get it in before 1.3

New PR Triage

<jamesn> https://github.com/search?l=&q=is%3Aopen+is%3Apr+repo%3Aw3c%2Faria+created%3A%3E%3D2019-09-26+repo%3Aw3c%2Faria+repo%3Aw3c%2Faccname+repo%3Aw3c%2Fcore-aam&type=Issues

JN: we will go over list in more detail later

1.2 tasks

<jamesn> https://github.com/w3c/aria/milestone/10

JN: for 1.2 milestone we have 74 open, 79 closed
... many of which have PRs open (26)

<jamesn> https://github.com/w3c/aria/pulls

JN: we need to get these reviewed and merged before next week
... pick at least one or two issues and work out what we should do with them.
... make PRs to resolve, or comments to indicate why not, or if they should be moved to 1.3.

MK: there are a good number that are combo boxes, and still need to work through those

JN: if anything is unassigned, please assign yourself so we can work through them.
... will send out an email of PRs to review. Getting approvals is ideal.

Issue 83

feat: aria-brailleroledescription

https://github.com/w3c/aria/pull/924

PK: made some updates to markup and wording. Add more warning to the note and indicate the importance of authors to use correctly.

JM: will get James Craig to review as well

JN: going to remove the WIP label. if we get approval, going to merge it unless we get other comments

Should extension specs be allowed to override required owned elements with subclasses?

https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/1056

JN: this came up at TPAC. how are we going to work with extension specs?
... example dpub can have doc-biblioentry in a list. but ARIA doesnt' have that

JM: I think we need for dpub to do an updated version. in the future we may need to update this. but, for now, we should ask dpub to update their spec.

<carmacleod> scribe: carmacleod

<jamesn> w+

pkra: in general, an extension should not touch just things that are just children

jamesn: I believe what happened is that biblioentrylist existed initially, but it was cut when they tried to reduce the number of roles

pkra: once the annotation module gets further along, we should get together to look at what extension modules should do

joanie: trying to refresh memory, looking at past emails
... they could deprecate biblioentryitem
... will follow up on this

When is hidden content taken into calculation of name and description?

james: Matt suggests we wait until Bryan is back

mck: there are related PRs that we may want to flag as targeting 1.3

Revising what ARIA attributes should be considered global

<Scott_O> scribe: Scott_O

<jamesn> https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/999

JN: do we want to get this into 1.2, or too close?

SO: added aria=haspopup to tab states and properties

JN: what do we need to do to make this into this milestone?

MK: i think we should make this a priority

JN: is it ready to merge? it's been reviewed, and people have been looking at it. is it ok to merge if we dont' get negative comments on it?

MK: I think we need to get positive reviews

SO: I'll do review as well

CM: me too

MK: I'll review

JN: anyone can review as well. and we should determine what testing and authoring practices need to do

MK: at least for this change is make sure we're solid on changing just these four properties listed properties, and not adding anymore.

JN: yes. let's just focus on is this change going to make the spec better, and not look to resolve everything for global states and properties
... i'm not convinced there's anything to do in practices except for usages where they are no longer allowed

MK: aria-invalid, aria-errormessage, and aria-disabled should all be ok
... and shouldn't result in any APG changes.

JN: joanie, can we do this in 1.2?

JM: let's aim for yes

separator role splits list in Firefox

https://github.com/w3c/core-aam/issues/49

JN: this is a core aam thing

JM: just cause that's where it lives right now

<jamesn> https://github.com/w3c/core-aam/issues/49

(If time) New labelling mechanisms

pull request 1070

<jamesn> https://github.com/w3c/aria/pull/1070

JN: i removed all mentions of taxonomy files, RDF, and similar refs
... may well just be editorial, but still worth a few people to review

<MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/schemata/

JN: please review

pull request 1071

make form accessible name required as true

make form landmarks similar to regions

MK: for this one we would need to update APG.

JN: this would make parity with HTML AAM as well

<joanie> Yes

JN: we need testing for this as well?

<joanie> It needs Core-AAM

<joanie> It will then need testing

JM: it is going to need to be tested, and a core aam change

<pkra> bye everyone

Summary of Action Items

Summary of Resolutions

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