<jasonjgw> It seems I'm getting one-way audio.

Try dialing direct, Jason

CAPTCHA Note - open issues

<scribe> scribe: janina

jgw: Scott's suggested language on Issues 4 & 22 are now in the Editor's Draft:

https://w3c.github.io/apa/captcha/

jgw: Also significant edits on Abstract and Intro in this draft
... Then recaptcha and pki sections
... Reducing the list of open issues
... Believe only a small number left

<jasonjgw> Janina affirms Jason's summary, and the remaining questions relate to "blinded" verifications.

<jasonjgw> Janina: queries what references are available to be cited. Janina suggests adding a section after the PKI material that discusses this prmising technology.

jgw: There is a referencable paper that can be cited, plus IETF material that may be useful
... Not just a small scale thesis project, it's serious development work
... Janina will draft, Jason will review and add references

<jasonjgw> Janina will draft a new section; Jason will review, add references, clarify text if needed based on the references, and make it available for Task Force review.

<jasonjgw> Janina suggests we may need to clarify that a human user, once verified, may make credentials available to web robots.

<jasonjgw> Jason will review the discussion of heuristic analysis (of authenticated users) to determine whether we should clarify it and add comments regarding usurpation of users' credentials/sessions.

<jasonjgw> If we find this inappropirate, we will propose a new subsection.

<jasonjgw> Janina will make the horizontal review requests to privacy/security.

<jasonjgw> Based on Judy's comments, consideration will be given to whether Jason should be added as an editor.

<jasonjgw> Judy suggests noting the role of the Research questions Task Force in the Status section.

<jasonjgw> Judy notes that Turing tests are noted prior to the material which introduces and defines the concept.

<jasonjgw> Judy is expecting comments related to the use of CAPTCHAs in China.

<jasonjgw> Judy suggests we should seek to clarify the recommendations given in the conclusion in view of what is developing with respect to secure authentication.

<jasonjgw> Janina notes the growing importance of the issue given the prevalence and public attention given to web robots.

<jasonjgw> Janina notes that a completely non-interactive solution (such as what Google has pioneered with ReCAPTCHA v3) is ideal from the standpoint of accessibility.

<jasonjgw> Scott volunteers to help as opportunities arise with the revisions.

Draft position paper for workshop on web games

scribe; janina

jgw: Notes draft circulated last Wednesday, has had comments, and updates to the draft since.

<jasonjgw> Janina notes that the position paper is on today's APA meeting agenda as well.

<jasonjgw> The submission date is 10 May.

<jasonjgw> Scott would prefer to read it in more detail during the comng week.

<jasonjgw> Scott will comment on the mailing list.

janina: Notes Matthew is planning to join RQTF on the 8th

jgw: Plans to check whether points raised are covered in the draft

jb: Notes lack of specifics, but lots of questions
... Seems lots of discussion that may impact FAST

<jasonjgw> Judy raises the question of the extent to which the FAST document has been taken into account. There is useful discussion that stops short of suggesting "things to do".

<jasonjgw> Janina notes that it's bidirectional with respect to the FAST - it might provide for potential solutions, but it also may be improved in the light of accessibility issues in web games.

XR accessibility discussion

jgw: People have noted XR is not unrelated to gaming
... Similarity of environment
... Notes recent list post for specific apps using XR to help people with specific issues, e.g. balance

Yearly hollidays calendar at:

https://www.w3.org/wiki/Holidays

<jasonjgw> Janina notes a conference related to XR - posts need to be made by 10 May.

<scott_h> I"ve just droped out

<scott_h> I'm guessing meeting is over now anyway - have a great week everyone

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