Accessible Platform Architectures Working Group Teleconference

27 Jun 2018


scott_h, jasonjgw, sloandr, janina, MichaelC


<jasonjgw> Janina notes the CfC and Michael's additional changes to the document, some significant but they may be editorial. This process issue will be addressed at the APA meeting later today.

<jasonjgw> Janina hopes for publication on Tuesday, but if the CfC needs to be reissued or extended, Tuesday 17 July would be the next publication opportunity.

<jasonjgw> Janina: notes difficulty finding glossary definitions for terms found in the document. These include "Bayesian" and "polymorphic" as appropriate to the context.

<jasonjgw> Janina and Jason agree that glossary entries need not stand in the way of publishing the first public working draft.

<jasonjgw> Jason undertakes to search for suitable definitions/explanations online.

<jasonjgw> Janina expects there will be a second public working draft prior the publication of the Note.

<jasonjgw> Janina acknoweldges organizational issues raised by Jason with respect to the order and treatment of the alternatives discussed in the document. Whether the scope has been appropriately confined is a second issue.

<jasonjgw> Michael: 17 July is in fact the next publication opportunity.

<jasonjgw> Michael notes the importance of avoiding overt judgments in the abstract that should be treated elsewhere.

<jasonjgw> Janina suggests we should state clearly why CAPTCHAs exist - what the rationale is.

<jasonjgw> Michael suggests clarifying that web site operators often desire to exclude scripts/robots from acting as users - restricting services to human users.

<jasonjgw> Michael: a possible addition to a future draft would clarify the appropriate support that can be provided for desirable/useful robots/autonomous agents.

<jasonjgw> Janina reiterates the desirability of a second public draft before publishing the Note.

<jasonjgw> Janina and Michael agree to address small editrial issues.

<jasonjgw> Process issues will be taken up at the APA meeting.

<inserted> CAPTCHA public working draft - update.

CAPTCHA public working draft - update.

<jasonjgw> Janina notes that the CfC is open until 5:00pm Boston time today, unless decided otherwise at the APA meeting.

<scribe> scribe: janina

Accessibility of augmented reality - discussion.

jgw: Still need to schedule finding additional VR refs
... Suspect our current organization as tehmatically organized as we will get
... Anything else we should do?

ds: Started looking at ACM proceedings for refs of VR/AR taken for a11y
... So far just able to look at titles ...

sh: Notes a paper for real time monitoring of COGA where real time help might be needed from time to time

Upcoming RQTF research topics - review of APA priorities and relationships.

<jasonjgw> Janina: in developing the proposed APA Working Group charter, a review was conducted of the "vertical stack" of technologies that may be of interest for APA's accessibility-related purposes - including potential RQTF activity.

<jasonjgw> Janina notes liaison relationships to identify relevant issues.

<jasonjgw> Janina: some of these technologies/activities are speculative with regard to their implications for accessibility.

<jasonjgw> Some are kown to be important, but have not been engaged with in detail so far (e.g., automotive, especially where human driving is expected at least in some circumstances).

<jasonjgw> APA plans to collect use cases.

<jasonjgw> In other technologies there is significant activity, for example, web payments.

<jasonjgw> Janina notes that as the low-level payment-related specifications are applied in a greater variety of environments, accessibility issues are likely to arise, particularly in the absence of appropriate guidance.

<jasonjgw> Janina: example - the need to obtain an accessible, itemized receipt - now typical in online transactions but may not be in the context of a shopping centre.

<jasonjgw> Janina proposes to review the "verticals" in view of the different levels of activity associated with each.

<scribe> scribe: janina

mc: Walking the list
... CSS -- lots of known issues
... CSS Navigation is a strong potential for RQTF

<MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Category:CSS_Navigation

<MichaelC> https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/projects/1

<MichaelC> WebXR - encompasses WebVR, Augmented Reality, Mixed Reality

<MichaelC> RQTF effort on VR at https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/task-forces/research-questions/wiki/Accessibility_of_Virtual_Reality

<MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/task-forces/research-questions/wiki/Augmented_Reality_and_Accessibility

mc: FChecking on def of "mixed" where the real object is modified in real time as it is being observed

<MichaelC> Mixed Reality: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mixed_reality

<MichaelC> Augmented Reality: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augmented_reality

<MichaelC> Web of Things: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/task-forces/research-questions/wiki/Accessibility_and_the_Web_of_Things_-_Literature_Summary

Summary of Action Items

Summary of Resolutions

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