Accessible Rich Internet Applications Working Group Teleconference

<joanie> agenda: this

<joanie> agenda: be done

<scribe> Scribe: Stefan

Next Item: Face-to-face week of 29 April - 5 May: Which days and agenda?

Face-to-face week of 29 April - 5 May: Which days and agenda?

Joanie: 3 day meeting - which three days?

Matt: Tu-Thursday

Bryan: better towards end of the week
... better begin of the week

Michael: no conflicts

STefan: cannot make it to the meeting due to travel restrictions

Joanie: GG of FS may come to the conference
... would be good to have one from screen reader vendors at the conference
... we need focus on roles again instead of accName
... role parity I mean

Matt: there are topics related: semantics of inline vs. block
... also affects css
... accName issues have overlappable parity

Joanie: name calculation can come as 1.2 topic
... ther are broader name calculation issues potentially

Matt: meaty technical stuff is not helped when talking about doc structure
... must have super strong focus on meaty tech issues
... otherwise there will be negative consequences

Joanie: there is also implemenation parity
... I see danger in different implementations .. inconsistencies

Stefan: also inconsitencies on AT side

Matt: tis is a F2F topic

Joanie: may be multiple reasons for that, lack of need, not imülemented yet and so on
... we get so much stuff regarding the mapping already, we need to start there
... for the notes, this is the "not mapped vs. mapped" problem

Matt: we shoud definitly say which roles, properties etc. we think screen readers shouöd rener directly
... meaning its unclear to end users
... aria-controls is one of this examples
... we need informative way and not normative way indicating how to annouce this
... we have a project for this underway

Joanie: there will be a wiki page for that

Advancing Graphics ARIA and Graphics AAM to CR

<joanie> Specs: https://www.w3.org/TR/graphics-aria-1.0/ and https://www.w3.org/TR/graphics-aam-1.0/

Joanie: date is 02. of february

<joanie> https://w3c.github.io/test-results/graphics-aam/

Joanie: current test results are here
... for FF it is complete, Windows, MacOS/Linux also
... MS will do this by early may
... I would like to enter CR
... any commments before I put out CFC?
... Michael?

Michael: we didn't recieve any comments
... we need affirmative feedback from the WG

Joanie: for graphics I will send out a CFC

AccName: Test coverage and expected results

<joanie> https://www.w3.org/wiki/AccName_1.1_Testable_Statements

Joanie: once again Bryan is hero of the week
... we also need to handle the missing test cases
... we added them to the wiki
... we need to close this part of process, any gaps still?
... we have other topics to discuss the details
... so the impression is we have complete test coverage

AccName: Issue triage / what spec changes are needed, and when?

<joanie> https://github.com/w3c/accname/issues

Matt: better assigning them to milestones

Joanie: we can also use labels

Michael: milestone show % complete

Matt: used milestones for changelog

Joanie: I am good with milestones such as for creation of accName

Matt: 2 to address: issue 1 and 5

<joanie> https://github.com/w3c/accname/issues/1

Matt: 1 is more complex, potentially editorial
... exaple in spec may cause confusion
... may be we need a change request for this
... ia mwilling to spend a little time on it

<joanie> https://github.com/w3c/accname/issues/5

Matt: also for issue 5 ..
... what does otherwise mean here .. answer was all of them
... is there is general consensus? THen I can take subsequent actions

<joanie> https://github.com/w3c/accname/issues/3

<joanie> https://github.com/w3c/accname/issues/4

Matt: seems to be duplicate issues
... will be F2F topics

<joanie> https://github.com/w3c/accname/issues/6

<joanie> The handling of multiple label elements on one form field is unclear

Matt: issue 6 and 7 ... actually related to issue 2
... is accName spec capturing anything related to naming?

<joanie> https://github.com/w3c/accname/issues/7

Matt: issue 7 there is some editorial complexity here
... hard area beacuse there are inconsistent implementations
... there are still pitfalls in the issues

Joanie: issue 1 I'm turning this into a v
... issue 1 I'm turning this into a test case

Matt: makes sense

AccName: Testable statements and testing

<joanie> https://w3c.github.io/test-results/accname/

<joanie> https://www.w3.org/wiki/AccName_1.1_Testable_Statements#Name_checkbox-label-embedded-menu

Bryan: what's supposed to return is not supported it seems

<joanie> <input type="checkbox" id="test" />

<joanie> <label for="test">Flash the screen

<joanie> <span role="menu">

<joanie> <span role="menuitem" aria-selected="true">1</span>

<joanie> <span role="menuitem" hidden>2</span>

<joanie> <span role="menuitem" hidden>3</span>

<joanie> </span>

<joanie> times.

<joanie> </label>

Joanie: (discussing the example)
... Aria 1.0 example is incorrect based on what the algorithm says

<joanie> https://www.w3.org/wiki/AccName_1.1_Testable_Statements#Name_checkbox-label-embedded-menu

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