Hebrew Layout Task Force Teleconference

01 Aug 2017

See also: IRC log


Lina, r12a


relevancy and scope for Hebrew http://w3c.github.io/typography/

Arabic Text Layout and Typography requirements: https://github.com/w3c/alreq

<r12a> Lina, meeting ?

<r12a> trackbot, start meeting

<trackbot> Meeting: Hebrew Layout Task Force Teleconference

<trackbot> Date: 01 August 2017


I started the meeting already I think

<r12a> ah, ok

<doron> Hi Lina - you're not on the audio call (webex) yet?

had no luck, Will try to join again

what's the access code? 645 433 142?

<r12a> +1-617-324-0000


access code?

<r12a> access code is 641 207 468

Richard: to reset adenda items numbering, type 'zakim, bye'

Action+ Amir to accept github invite

<r12a> ACTION: Amir to accept github invite [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/08/01-hlreq-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-4 - Accept github invite [on Amir Aharoni - due 2017-08-08].

Richard: makes sense to resend the agenda / reminder on the day of the meeting

Ongoing discussion on text layout and typography aspects


Quotation marks : „מירכאות נמוכות בהתחלה ‚נמוכות בודדות באמצע’ גבוהות כפולות בסוף”

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Richard: intercharacter spacing:
... Arabic tend to stretch character glyph

Doron: in Biblical / religious texts it's also used but quite rare
... it's used to be common in very old text but at present is not used

<r12a> https://github.com/w3c/type-samples/issues/19

Doron: interchartacter spacing may be used for emphasis even in modern texts
... but not common

Richard: CSS means to achieve certain stretches

<r12a> https://github.com/w3c/type-samples/issues/25

Doron: this is actually not printing but handwriting

Richard: even for Qur'anic texts is it there other means to accomplish stretching

Diacritics: coverage

Hebrew diacritic types: (1) niqud

(2) geresh and gershayim - in the scope

(3) cantillation, which used in Biblical texts - probably yes (Doron)

Doron: cantillation is used nowadays so it makes sense to cover it

Richard: We want to describe the script anyway, so cover cantillation marks. Even if CSS does not have means to regulate, we may want to suggest something new to CSS
... italization what is most important which way does the text leans

Doron: italization is not inherent, was adopted

Richard: if someone creates eBook, they should know what not to do

Italization to be discussed

(discussion to be continued)

Cursive text: Lina will send some samples

Richard: line breaking, how justification work for Hebrew, hyphenation
... - this are particularly important topics

hyphenation rules in Hebrew: Doron have seen some rules

Richard: First letter styling: align with the top of the first line or bottom or other positions
... important first letter sizing - e.g. in exact number of lines
... punctuation before the first letter - should it also be big or nor

Next meeting - in 2 weeks

<r12a> https://github.com/w3c/hlreq/issues

<r12a> https://github.com/w3c/hlreq/projects

<r12a> https://github.com/w3c/alreq/projects/1

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: Amir to accept github invite [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/08/01-hlreq-minutes.html#action01]

Summary of Resolutions

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