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DP: We can still use some other space even if we could not use ad-hoc meeting space.
TK: Thank you Daniel for the
interoperability test results.
... It looks all problems are on OpenEXI side.
DP: If you observation is different, please let me know.
TK: I will give an update next week.
https://www.w3.org/wiki/TPAC/2017/ad-hoc-meetings
<brutzman> TPAC 2017 agenda http://www.w3.org/2017/11/TPAC/Overview.html
DB: Thursday afternoon, there is AC meeting.
DP: Alternative is, to have
ad-hoc meeting on Friday.
... I am not sure if I can join TPAC at this point, but if I
can go, I will try to stay one day longer.
<brutzman> W3C Publishing Summit https://www.w3.org/publishing/events/summit2017.html
<brutzman> here is another area of work that might benefit from EXI: https://www.w3.org/blog/2016/10/w3c-and-big-data
<brutzman> am simply thinking that we might conceptualize a broader strategy for EXI, how does it help other areas of W3C work and the Open Web Platform.
<brutzman> ... then we might use TPAC week as a goal for upcoming communications, and an opportunity to interact with other groups and consider joint endeavors.
<brutzman> TK: moved EXI Ad Hoc meeting to Friday 10 NOV 1500-1800. https://www.w3.org/wiki/TPAC/2017/ad-hoc-meetings#EXI_ad-hoc_meeting
DP: I tried to share feedback
from my experiences with WoT.
... Thing Description is written in JSON.
... We are looking at EXI4JSON, CBOR, etc.
... I noticed several things.
... I categorized into three.
... General EXI4JSON issue.
... For small documents, character escaping makes names with
"@" sign bigger.
... One character becomes 4 characters for those for the first
occurrence.
... Second category is EXI4JSON with dedicated schema.
... UPA issue.
... Valid in XSD 1.1, but not in XSD 1.0.
... Media-types. We want to use enumerated values.
... With strict mode, we cannot deviate.
... URI strings are very similar, with only the last part of
strings are different.
... I am not sure if we need to stick with "strict" mode.
... Last category is how to standardize EXI4JSON.
... People were against using non-standard specification.
... EXI is a standard. How can we make EXI4JSON a standard?
<brutzman> question: A1. keyname escaping, is the basic issue that @ symbol is not allowed as a key?
<dape> Don you are right @ is not a valid character in XML... and since we wanted to keep compatibility with XML we decided to escape @ and similar characters
<brutzman> thanks, next question
<brutzman> # B Issues with dedicated schemas in EXI4JSON: it would seem we most want compatibility with XSD 1.1 version...
<brutzman> ... alternatives might be to either only support 1.1, or else list deviations such as this that might be known limitations of some sort.
<brutzman> B2. Pre-populated strings based on enumerated values: it is also possible to define enumeration values and use them as attribute values, even if they are optional/extendible (meaning not strict but allowed)...
<dape> no mentioning of 1.1 is made
<brutzman> ... wondering if we can handle this case. (in X3D schema we have been informally documenting such relationships as appinfo)
<brutzman> B2. Pre-populated strings based on enumerated values: seems very valuable, hope we can do it.
<dape> EXI refers to xml schema 1.0 in the spec
TK: I suggest to continue discussion on EXI4JSON next week.
<brutzman> Daniel maybe next time we could talk about JSON schema efforts, looks like you posted over on that list.
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