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Device and Sensors Working Group Teleconference

29 Jun 2017

Agenda

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
Frederick_Hirsch, Andrey_Logvinov, Mikhail_Pozdnyakov, Anssi_Kostiainen, Alexander_Shalamov, Kenneth_Christiansen
Regrets
Dominique_Hazael-Massieux
Chair
Frederick_Hirsch
Scribe
fjh

Contents


<scribe> ScribeNick: fjh

github digests:

* 20 June 2017 https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2017Jun/0009.html

* 27 June 2017 https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2017Jun/0010.html

DAS rechartering - Please comment regarding scope and proposals, see

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2017Jun/0007.html

Minutes approval

Approve minutes from 15 June 2017

https://www.w3.org/2017/06/15-dap-minutes.html

RESOLUTION: Minutes from 15 June 2017 are approved

Meetings

RESOLUTION: Cancel teleconferences in July/August, resume 7 Sept 2017

fjh: who will be at TPAC, Anssi?

anssik: I will be there, so will Kenneth. Agree informal session would be useful.

fjh: Anssik, can you lead session on Wed during TPAC

anssik: yes, can do a session with kenneth

fjh: good to get more involvement in DAS

HTML Media Capture

Next steps/status for PR transition next month?

https://www.w3.org/TR/html-media-capture/

http://w3c.github.io/test-results/html-media-capture/20170428.html

anssik: no new technical work needed, CR published 4 May then updated to align with implementations

<anssik> Since Candidate Recommendation 04 May 2017, the capture IDL attribute was changed from an enumeration into a DOMString. This change aligns this specification with the HTML specification changes that removed the IDL enumeration reflection.

<anssik> https://github.com/w3c/html-media-capture/issues/14

<scribe> ACTION: fjh to check with Dom on CR versus PR for HTML Media Capture [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/06/29-dap-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-801 - Check with dom on cr versus pr for html media capture [on Frederick Hirsch - due 2017-07-06].

anssik: may need to update references to HTML 5

fjh: can you do this?

anssik: no, on vacation, dom offered

<scribe> ACTION: dom to update HTML Media Capture references for publication, e.g. HTML5 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/06/29-dap-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-802 - Update html media capture references for publication, e.g. html5 [on Dominique Hazaël-Massieux - due 2017-07-06].

<anssik> https://github.com/w3c/html-media-capture/commit/7b5f3a911fd6544c1034444189158951a77dddbe

anssik: this is diff showing changes
... test suite shows one failure, but not applicable, since safari doesn’t allow upload of text file

Wake Lock

fjh: Issue review, next steps?

andrey: remaining issue is concrete so can be resolved
... not sure what to do about sandbox, not just single flag, wake lock might need to change HTML spec

<Andrey_Logvinov> https://html.spec.whatwg.org/multipage/origin.html#sandboxing-flag-set

<anssik> look at https://w3c.github.io/presentation-api/ for sandbox integration

andrey: e.g. pointer lock has flag, so we also need to introduce wake lock flag

<anssik> https://github.com/w3c/presentation-api/issues/414

issue: how to update HTML to include flag for wake lock

<trackbot> Created ISSUE-175 - How to update html to include flag for wake lock. Please complete additional details at <http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/issues/175/edit>.

anssik: need to be clear on HTML version target

<scribe> ACTION: dom to comment on how to update HTML spec to include sandbox flag for wake lock [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/06/29-dap-minutes.html#action03]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-803 - Comment on how to update html spec to include sandbox flag for wake lock [on Dominique Hazaël-Massieux - due 2017-07-06].

<anssik> https://w3c.github.io/html/single-page.html#element-attrdef-iframe-sandbox

anssik: allow-presentation flag

<anssik> https://github.com/w3c/html/issues/437

action Andrey_Logvinov to raise HTML issue to add wake lock flag

<trackbot> Error finding 'Andrey_Logvinov'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/users>.

close action-803

<trackbot> Closed action-803.

fjh: how to close other wake lock issues

action Andrey_Logvinov to close issues that are no longer relevant

<trackbot> Error finding 'Andrey_Logvinov'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/users>.

action andrey to close issues that are no longer relevant

<trackbot> Created ACTION-804 - close issues that are no longer relevant [on Andrey Logvinov - due 2017-07-06].

Battery

anssik: don’t have consensus yet, need to add policy directive to feature policy
... enable opt-in to allow iframe to use battery status
... mounir may not like adding this change

https://github.com/w3c/battery/issues/10

anssik: need to wait, published spec is implemented
... editors draft adds further features

fjh: then would do CR

<anssik> https://github.com/w3c/battery/issues/12

fjh: would need diff and status text
... do we have test case

anssik: yes, but will need new report
... diff and status text is already in place
... mounir has concern about breaking existing implementations that use battery status from within iframes
... rick and mounir need to talk
... low priority, will take time, keep open

Sensor APIs

Welcome to Mikhail Pozdnyakov and Alexander Shalamov as additional members of the Generic Sensor API editorial team.

anssik: Rick Waldron has been reviewing issues and pull request

fjh: we need to make sure group makes decisions, not editors alone
... I would like to see disagreements raised formally and addressed by consensus in manner to be recorded to enable transparency and traceability

anssik: silence is consent, expect ot have review of github

<shalamov> https://github.com/w3c/sensors/projects/4

fjh: would like summary of substantive issues

<shalamov> https://github.com/w3c/sensors/projects/5

anssik: will share it

fjh: is this page dynamically updated

shalamov: manually done, but issues do not change it automatically

mikhail: need to put operations into order, then other tasks

anssik: level 1 means scope to CR
... level 2 deferred to next version of spec
... useful to share these links on the list, noting level 1 for CR

fjh: thanks for creating these views

anssik: add to readme

fjh: thanks

Rechartering

<anssik> https://github.com/w3c/dap-charter/issues

fjh: we need people to respond to the issues and draft charter dom provided, please give heads up to browser people you know

<anssik> https://github.com/w3c/dap-charter/issues/31

anssik: mikhael and alex working on device orientation events, common security issues with generic sensor API

<anssik> could note in https://github.com/w3c/dap-charter/issues/31 interest to help edit the device orientation events spec

<anssik> integrate security and privacy consideration from the Generic Sensor API

anssik: NFC could be moved from community group to this group, also WebUSB might be considered, also bluetooth, all topics for discussion

mikhael: device orientation could share security model with generic sensor API

<anssik> should ping the editors of WebUSB, WebBT, WebNFC for interest to move these CG specs to the Rec Track in this WG

Other Business

none

Adjourn

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: dom to comment on how to update HTML spec to include sandbox flag for wake lock [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/06/29-dap-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: dom to update HTML Media Capture references for publication, e.g. HTML5 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/06/29-dap-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: fjh to check with Dom on CR versus PR for HTML Media Capture [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/06/29-dap-minutes.html#action01]
 

Summary of Resolutions

  1. Minutes from 15 June 2017 are approved
  2. Cancel teleconferences in July/August, resume 7 Sept 2017
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