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<kaz> scribe: Daniel
<scribe> scribe: dape
<kaz> scribenick: dape
SK: goes over agenda
... action items
... break out sessions in Osaka
... TD model discussion (report from call this week)
... Zoltan joined call.. overview about management
discussion
... any other agenda point?
SK: TD and semantic annotations?
DP: started issue on JSON
schema
... Victor plans to add example to make our point even
clearer
SK: plan to have more concrete
proposal for Osaka
... next AI is about namespaces in TD
<MariaPoveda> there is an issue about this https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/issues/3
<sebastian> next issue https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description/issues/3
SK: Confusion whether we need
year and month in namespace
... it seems the reserved name is fine
... I am missing the discussion which vocabulary goes in which
NS
... we need clarification with that regard
Maria: use Excel file so
far..
... it seems that WoT NS is the only one necessary
... rest can be out of WoT TD
<MariaPoveda> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10GeoL3k8set82bIhACUUM2jEKb7h-1WKRujUO7t_tE4/edit
Maria: will point to this spreadsheet in github
SK: another possibility would be to create PR by for example creating subfolder with examples etc cetera
DP: question about evolution of TD vocabulary.. no mean to indicate change with year/month
Maria: what I have seen that main
NS points to latest version
... one with version and one without year/month
SK: Might be an issue for already deployed devices
Maria: Let's look at what spatial data people are doing
Fernando: if one need specific
version.. need to add month/year... of not use canonical
version
... will add my comments to github issue
<kaz> https://www.w3.org/2005/07/13-nsuri
Kaz: W3C has guidelines
<kaz> https://www.w3.org/2017/04/26-wot-td-minutes.html
Kaz: recommendation is YYYY/MM
... /ns etc is fine also
... will check within W3C team also
... should clarify our requirements first
SK: Fernando suggests to have both... canonical uri points to latest YYYY/MM uri
<kaz> https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description
Kaz: we don't usually configure a link from canonical namespace uri to dated namespace uri need to check, though. btw, maybe using "www.w3.org/ns/wot-thing-description" as the namespace URI would make sense because we use "wot-thing-description" for the TD GitHub repository
SK: please use issue to share your view
ach kaz
SK: I initiated 3 topics
https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_May_2017,_Osaka,_Japan#Plenary.2FBreakout_Topics
SK: 1. TD model reflection (What
is missing? How about the security and lifecycle aspect?)
... we have to think about security and life cycle
... 2. Data type with semantic annotation based on JSON
Schema
... would like to have a concrete proposal till Osaka
<kaz> s
SK: 3. start discussion about TD
serializations
... collect ideas about what serialization...requirements etc
cetera
... please add comments/topics
Darko: Victor and myself
discussed SSN ontology... which will become standard
soon..
... will be Breakout... also as part of TD breakout
... maybe joined breakout?
SK: To show it can e aligned? Sounds fine!
SK: good discussion on Wednesday
https://github.com/sebastiankb/wot-ontology/blob/master/diagrams/WoTOntology.svg
outcome see figure..
Maria: merging pull request still needed..
SK: model based on Marias
proposal
... top class Thing: renaming took place
... in general we removed "longer" names
... also made clear that uri's MUST be of class URI etc.. not
just a string
... discussed also whether zero interactions make sense
... seems the case given that there might be a simple "overall"
TD with just base information without actual interactions
... similar renaming took place in other places
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