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<janina> scribe: Janina
jb: Welcoming Joanie Diggs as new
ARIA Co-Chair
... Also noting that Rich has retired from IBM, but continues
as Co-Chair for ARIA under Nobility
jd: Introduces herself, Igalia, Orca screen reader, a11y of various kinds for 20 years
[going around the table as people intro themselves for Joanie]
jb: Notes this call generally
includes WAI Chairs and Task Force Facilitators
... Objective is to coordinate across our various
activities
ak: Noting there are 3 formal
objections on the proposed WCAG charter
... Believe 2 may be withdrawn
... There's on going discussion, but may go to the Director for
resolution
jb: I've been pushing W3C
Strategy to re-examine the W3C chartering process
... The process is arguably more difficult than it ought to
be
... We also need to be crystal clear on best practice
... Also noting next Charter to be renewed is for EO
... Would like a wider discussion next CC call on how EO is
viewed
jb: Usually Shawn gathers various
presentations from W3C people and coordinates the presentation,
blogging, etc
... CSUN is a great place to look for WG participants
... Encouraging people to consider do they have the range of
skillsets in their groups
<Judy> scribe: Judy
js: in APA, we lost a bit of
participation when PFWG split
... then we lost more, then regained some
... particularly, we're missing cross-system knowledge of how
things operate
... RS is no longer in APA, that was a loss
... "cross operating system knowledge"
JB: quite specific; any other general
MC: think APA has a lot of holes in coverage in APA
<janina> scribe: Janina
Brent: Recalling EO listed out
the various skillsets needed by EO, and made a presentation of
it
... Expect to revisit this during CSUN F2F
jb: It's useful for W3C to be aware of presentations our Chairs and participants are giving
Sharon: Ours is Access U
jb: We probably haven't
systematized as much as we might like
... Looking for input
jb: This is a new incarnation, in
a somewhat different form, of work previously in its own
Research WG
... Looking for brief update ...
<shadi> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Web_of_Things
shadi: My role is mainly
transition, but am also continuing to pursue WoT
... TF also looking at authentication
<Judy> scribe: Judy
Js: the RQTF is full of
researchers so they are being systematic, including on
CAPTCHA
... pulling together lists of research publications on topics
that the group is taking up
... looking at where the accessibility requirements on specific
issues such as authentication, and Silver
<janina> scribe: Janina
jb: Inviting people to send anyone who may be interested RQTF's way
jb: Believe clearest milestones
are ARIA and EO at the moment
... WCAG should have these in place with the new charter
<MichaelC> ARIA milestones
mc: It's hoped that ARIA 1.1 and Core AAM will go CR soon
<MichaelC> WCAG milestones
mc: May be falling a bit behind
because the automated testing harness is taking longer than
hoped
... We're due for WCAG Understanding and WCAG Techniques
updates, and WCAG 2.1 but need a charter
jb: Like to discuss this here in case help may be needed
Brent: We've a few we're hoping
to finish by end of March
... Tutorials, doc on how pwds use the web ...
... Have adjusted schedule in hopes of getting ahead of
re-chartering
Sharon: Some of our deliverables
were perhaps too vague
... So, we're also working on a web site redesign
... So, we're also trying to go beyond in some ways
jb: In summary I'm not hearing
any serious slippage
... Notes there is new tooling being developed at W3C, but not
necessarily useful for recurring pubs
... Asking whether ARIA publication will be pre CSUN and
routine?
mc: No, CR, and yes before
CSUN
... Up to 3 ARIA by CSUN
<Sharron> sorry must drop, let me know if more info is needed, thanks all
jb: Any pending reviews, or review needs ... ?
<Judy> scribe: Judy
JS: Ralph Swick (Arch & Tech
Lead) will join next APA WG meeting to discuss MAUR
implementation
... APIs supporting MAUR
... need to plan for correct support being built in
... may also need additional support in WCAG
... may need really simple support for some kinds of MAUR. It's
all there, in the requirements document, but needs better
introduction.
... can you think of other things to help make media
successful.
<liam> [INK - Information and Knowledge Domain]
<janina> jb: Noting that sometimes even people aware of MAUR are not recalling the implications as work continues
<scribe> scribe: Janina
jb: Updating MAUR?
js: Yes, probably, including both Daltonization and flash mediation
jb: Noting this call covers
multiple purposes as the implications of W3C reorganization
play out
... We will continue to refine
... Seems particularly important to create a Roadmap for
accessibility
... Getting a better handle on APIs, or better educational
objective understanding, etc
... Or future ARIA -- how that fits in
... Notes that other W3C areas are doing similar Roadmap
work
<Judy> https://w3c.github.io/media-web-roadmap/media/transmission.html
js: Yahoo!
jb: Does this resonate with people?
mc: Yes, but concerned who buys
in
... So unclear how to develop it
jb: Hope to develop with all
stakeholders
... Thinking about how many, and which communities we need to
impact
... Any thoughts on process?
... Seems this may be not so much a WG task
mc: Not sure how to start outside
of a WG
... Then we would need to be concerned how this would fit with
our Charters
jb: Noting this would be intended
to cross Strategic area and Architectural area in W3C
... Not yet fleshed out, so am eager for imput
... And, once developed, some pieces may be assisted by
specific help from specific WGs
<Brent> As this is a new idea that I am hearing for the first time, it would be nice to have more information around the roadmap scope and the objectives/goals.
jb: Notes not yet discussed with
AC, but has been discussed with the reorg
... Asking people to look at the sample in above URI
... Reactions appreciated
<Joshue> sry
<Joshue> yup
<Joshue> just about the LVTF thing
<Joshue> right
<Joshue> I pinged you and the guys about it it
<Joshue> we need to get to the underlining reasons for this stance
<Joshue> I want to understand it better..
jb: Concern among low-vision about take-up of various issues
<Joshue> what time?
<Joshue> ok
<Joshue> ok - we will discuss on editors tomorrow
<Joshue> and then join if needed
<Joshue> sry about dead mic
<MichaelC> Draft WTAG Checklist
mc: Being actively discussed in APA
<MichaelC> Review request for WTAG checklist
js: Noting this checklist is for
spec developers
... Seeking review from various group and technology
viewpoints, what do you want spec developers to be sure to
cover?
jb: Should we schedule more time on 508?
<Joshue> yes
<Joshue> it would be very useful
js: Yes
<Kim> yes
<Brent> yes
jb: We will revisit, as we
continue to revisit agenda priorities
... Next call is February 1
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