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Accessible Rich Internet Applications Working Group Teleconference

17 Nov 2016

Agenda

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
Joanmarie_Diggs, Janina, MichaelC, Jason_Duan, Matt_King, James_Nurthen
Regrets
Joseph_Scheuhammer
Chair
SV_MEETING_CHAIR
Scribe
Janina

Contents


<Jason_Duan> Hello everyone

<Jason_Duan> can anyone head me?

<Jason_Duan> I am from IBM

<Jason_Duan> no luck with computer audio. dialing in

<MichaelC> agenda order 1, 4

DPub ARIA CR

<scribe> scribe: Janina

mc: Any objections to a CfC on ARIA-Dpub?

[No objections]

<MichaelC> DPub ARIA CR CfC

mc: Hope to publish week following

ARIA in HTML review

mc: ARIA in HTML Review requested:

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-aria/2016Nov/0024.html

<MichaelC> APA tracking of ARIA in HTML

janina: Notes Michiel is reviewing for APA Action-2104 and cross referencing APG

mc: Proposing the APA review will suffice for this WG as well

janina: Proposing to have him report to both WGs and get the wider audience

mc: Question for now is does anyone want to also review?

mk: No, but I have raised issues on that doc

mc: Anyone we think should review it?

[crickets]

jd: Also raised an issue not yet addressed

mk: Have raised some that have been addessed

[People looking at open issues]

janina: Noting this was once a joint ownership, via the HTML-A11y TF
... Therefore, we owe a good review

mc: We'll re-address this in a couple weeks

ARIA 1.1 testing update

mc: Anything additional this week?

jd: Still working, but nothing major to report

mc: No Testing mtg this week?

jd: Correct

Continue ARIA 1.2 triage of HTML 5 features

<MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/textlevel-semantics.html#textlevel-semantics

mc: Text level semantics
... <a > we need nothing

jn: Do we have a mapping for an anchor? Is that important?
... Just asking

mc: Think not, nothing exposed to api
... so, do we worry about rel?
... Notes there's a lot there ... Do we need these, or save for 2.0
... Suggest we'd need to go one by one
... I suggest they're useful but not widely used, so could be 2.0

mk: We use it to view a style sheet in the apg

mc: But not on an <a > tag
... Propose this is 2.0

[crickets]

mk: Mapping things not used by AT doesn't make sense, so we want them only if think they would be useful to AT

jn: If it were widespread and supported, it would be very useful
... But neither is true now

<MichaelC> GH-ISSUE 480 https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/480

jn: Notes this overlaps Dpub

mc: What about target attrib?
... We know it's supported
... Tells what window ...
... WCAG SCs refer to this
... Do we need mapping to tell AT where to go?

mk: Today we add invisible text ---

mc: Some AT will tell you about text ---

mk: We did change HasPopup

mc: Does HasPopup meet the use case?

mk: No, need value like "Window"

mc: I think we need to consider this

mk: Agree

mc: So Issue-481

<MichaelC> GH-ISSUE 481 https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/481

mc: Continuing with others of <a >

jd: href covered on Linux ...

mc: Suggests we need it

jd: Agree

<MichaelC> GH-ISSUE 482 https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/482

mc: Next download attrib -- believe this is ua ...
... Do we want to indicate that rather than open?

mk: Would propose to cover with target

mc: So add to target issue
... So updated 481
... Next hreflang ...
... Believe not supported by tools
... Lang not known until link opened without this, so could be a basis for choice, but haven't seen this used

<MichaelC> GH-ISSUE 483 https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/483

janina: Suggest to ask Dpub and assessment people like ETS

mc: Attrib=type a mime
... Allows selection of prefered mime
... But also not used

<MichaelC> GH-ISSUE 484 https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/484

mc: Reviewing which are 1.2 and 2.0

mk: Let's keep for now and see what the discussion is

mc: Next <em>

<MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/textlevel-semantics.html#the-em-element

<MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/textlevel-semantics.html#the-strong-element

mc: Suggest also <strong>

<MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/textlevel-semantics.html#the-b-element

mk: Are <b> and <i> still there?

<MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/textlevel-semantics.html#the-i-element

<MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/textlevel-semantics.html#the-u-element

jd: Currently exposed through text attributes
... We can't really say "emphasis" by simply mapping to <i>

mk: Pondering using properties

jd: Or an attrib in ARIA
... Proposing ARIA support

janina: Suggesting the history is that these were intended as simple replacements for b and i

mk: We should keep these pieces together for future discussion
... Think there would coordination on these questions with the new CSS A11y TF

jd: And ins and del

mk: We have some kind of mapping for ins

mc: Also code? samp? etc
... Want to look for where we need correspondances -- not necessarily the semantics
... Also cite?
... Also q ?

[agreement]

mc: q is inline quotation
... Almost never see it ...
... Notes some of these attribs are style, and some are semantic, but different people would class each differently

<MichaelC> GH-ISSUE 485 https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/485

mk: Willing eventually, but suggest ideal is CSS and perhaps Dpub

mc: Want to look at who to assign these in remaining minutes ....

Next Meeting

mc: Next will be December 1 -- no meeting U.S. Thanksgiving Day!

Summary of Action Items

Summary of Resolutions

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