See also: IRC log
<n8s> btw, I'm currently on a shuttle so I can listen in, but I might need to talk over irc until I get into the office in a few min
<n8s> seconded, this is a much better time :)
<brutzman> discussion: use of public-exi and member-exi mailing lists. Telcon information is W3C member-only, but other business by default is public (unless specifically noted as member only).
<brutzman> TK will publish next week's agenda on public list.
<brutzman> Publishing our agenda/minutes publicly, wherever appropriate, will hopefully encourage further participation as well.
TK: Carine suggested us to consult with the public regarding WG name change.
DP: Should we ask the public now? Or should we wait till our home page description becomes less XML-ish?
<brutzman> Asking the public for feedback will help us update the working group description.
DB: Getting feedback from public is helpful.
<brutzman> ... that will help us provide a good description for the broader focus as well.
DP: Describing what we are gonna
achieve in the future will justify the name change.
... We can start work on the new work now, independent of the
new charter discussion.
<brutzman> The working group name has changed once before, from XML Binary Compression (XBC) to Efficient XML Interchange (EXI).
CB: If we don't change the acronym, name change should be ok. However, we ought to ask the public if it is appropriate or not.
DP: And we discussed we should not change the short name.
<brutzman> The name changes reflect the major progress that the group has made, and all of this constructive evolution is a very positive trait.
DP: Carine's suggested name is the only good one so far.
DB: I agree as well.
CB: EXPath is a community group, and is still active.
DP: If we say "exi4css" the focus appears more about EXI than about CSS.
<brutzman> https://www.w3.org/community/expath/
<brutzman> Binary Module 1.0, EXPath Module 3 December 2013, https://www.w3.org/2013/12/expath-binary-20131203
<brutzman> i'd hope that we would keep 'exi' in all EXI-related extensions that we do, otherwise they are not searchable or locatable.
<brutzman> ecss: "Enduring CSS, A guide to writing style sheets for large scale, rapidly changing, long-lived web projects"
DP: We can bring up the discussion of the name when we discuss EXI use with CSS WG.
<brutzman> EXI4JSON still seems like the correct name to me; "4" means "for", it certainly is EXI for JSON recommendation, and it originates in the EXI working group (rather than CSS group/community)
<brutzman> Discussion is always good, but this name seems OK.
TK: The WG prefers to use a
consistent strategic names across all applications of
EXI.
... EXI4JSON, EXI4CSS, etc.
DP: Should we change "intermediary" to "intermediate"?
<brutzman> I think that "Intermediary" is usually employed as noun: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/intermediary
<brutzman> while adjective is more typically "intermediate"
<caribou> Web services specs used to have 'intermediaries' (noun)
<n8s> (I had to run to my next meeting, but I'll keep an eye on the conversation going on here :) )
DP: Do we need a change log?
CB: It is not mandatory.
DB: Staring from CR, we need to track every change.
DP: How long do we want to allow
for feedback.
... Mid December is not very useful, so I wanted to set it to
beginning of January.
CB: minimum is 8 weeks.
DP: Exit criteria.
... Test suite is one.
... Two implementations.
... Issues need to be taken care of.
... ... and W3C XML Activity.
... I recall DB and Liam mentioned XML activity will be
abandoned.
CB: It no longer exists.
... Activities are abandoned for some time by now.
DB: Domains are being removed as well.
<brutzman> Found this page: https://www.w3.org/XML/Activity
DB: There is still a page about XML activity...
CB: It should mention we no longer maintains it.
<brutzman> Also found W3C page on XML, but no mention of EXI there. https://www.w3.org/XML
<brutzman> Correction: it does include "Efficient XML Interchange" just not the acronym EXI
<brutzman> CB: see Reorganization panel (facilitator - Coralie Mercier) for more information
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