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<markw> I was speaking, but apparently you can't hear me, so I will call in again
<scribe> scribeNick: plh
<scribe> Meeting: HTML Media Extensions Editors
<markw> Seems you still can't hear me, but it is very noisy here anyway, for first 30 min
Paul: Aug 2, we're doing a CfC
for MSE and EME for proposed recommendations
... input for the drafts is editorial work and test suite and
testing report
... also make decisions about features at risk
... we have some probability of getting MSE ready by that
date
... not sure about features at risk yet
... editors will need to make recommendations to the
group
... so some chances of having adequate testing results for
MSE
... but for EME, we're good on editorials and features at risk,
we haven't made progress on the test suite
... any question about timeline?
[none heard]
Paul: I'll target to have an editors draft on July 29 for the group
report https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2016Jul/0006.html
and https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-hme-editors/2016Jul/0005.html
[[
1. Outstanding PR on test repo should be reviewed, fixed as needed, and merged.
2. I think the test suite can be viewed as "good enough" after that, although it can certainly be improved.
3. Some features are not yet implemented across browsers. The implementation report should be updated once that is done. I'd be happy to do that once I am back to work.
]]
Matt: I'll deal with https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pulls?q=is%3Apr+is%3Aopen+label%3Amedia-source
Paul: any ETA?
Matt: this week should be fine
Paul: can we regenerate the test results after that?
Plh: assuming we have changes in implementations
[[
1. the on{event} attributes
2. live seekable range
3. audioTracks and videoTracks in Firefox
4. resetting the delaying-the-load event in Edge (this makes most test files timeout but note individual tests may still pass)
5. TrackDefault (feature marked at-risk)
]]
Matt: I've seen recent activities
on on{event} attribute, live seekable, and abort and duration
change
... in firefox
Paul: Jerry, can we reach out to
Mozilla on providing test results?
... we'll focus on those 5 and the abord duration change
Jerry: sure
Paul: features at risk
[[
The appendStream method on the sourceBuffer object and algorithm steps that are used only by it.
The VideoPlaybackQuality object and the HTMLVideoElement Extensions that use it.
The totalFrameDelay attribute on the VideoPlaybackQuality object.
The TrackDefault object and its related objects, attributes, methods and algorithms
]]
Paul: on VideoPlayBack, we have
an issue
... appendStream, it's out, correct?
Matt: correct
Paul: for totalFrameDelay, is it tied to VideoPlayBackQuality
Matt: we'd have to take it out anyway probably
Paul: TrackDefault?
Jerry: our intent is to implement it but can't implement on the timeline
Paul: we have one implementation
on VideoPlayBackQuality and TrackDefault
... can we remove them?
<markw> The tests show that VideoPlaybackQuality interface object length fails on Edge
<markw> But otherwise there are 2 implementations except for the totalFrameDelay
Jerry: we have implementations in Edge and Firefox for VideoPlaybackQuality...
Matt: we have very marginal tests
for that in the test suite
... not sure if we have real interop
Paul: can you summarize the status in the bug?
Matt: sure
http://w3c.github.io/test-results/media-source/all.html
Paul: my recommendation is to
make progress in the bug
... I'll make a decision later this week
Plh: I could look to add a test on VPQ to see if we have some interop
Paul: MSE editorial issues
https://github.com/w3c/media-source/milestones/V1Editorial
Paul: a few are not
assigned
... any volunteer for 99 and 98?
Jerry: I'll take those
Mark: I'll take 83
Paul: 45?
... we may not get to it
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2016Jul/0004.html
Jerry: clearKey are up and
running on all browsers. Firefox is debugging that
... plan was to convert them to multi-DRM
... progress is being made
... looking at clearKey, there is a partial coverage of the
spec
... coverage look decent and a good base
... next step is to get gap list and add tests
... plan at
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-hme-editors/2016Jul/0006.html
Paul: any comment on the plan?
Mark: in some cases, there are
small gaps and bugs
... can be corrected with JS. should we "fix" some of the
tests?
Paul: we should keep the tests
as-is, but give additional info to the Director
... our test results metrics should be based on actual results
but could have additional data to indicate that some tests can
be fixed using polyfill
[discussion around what demonstrating implementations means]
https://github.com/w3c/encrypted-media/milestones/V1Editorial
https://github.com/w3c/encrypted-media/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+milestone%3AV1NonBlocking
Jerry: let's focus on editorial first
https://github.com/w3c/encrypted-media/issues/221
[[
Issue 221 - This specification contains sections for describing security and privacy considerations. These sections are not final and review is welcome.
]]
<markw> All the EME V1Editorial issues are now assigned
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