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ARIA APG TF

14 Dec 2015

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
AnnAbbott, Bryan_Garaventa, JaeunJemmaKu, JamesNurthen, MattKing, MichielBijl
Regrets
Chair
Matt_King
Scribe
jamesn, MichielBijl

Contents


Review example of radio group pattern https://rawgit.com/a11ydoer/aria/jemma/practices/examples/radio/radio.html

<jamesn> scribe: jamesn

<jemma> https://rawgit.com/a11ydoer/aria/jemma/practices/examples/radio/radio.html

<MichielBijl> scribe: MichielBijl

JK: Remove note about generated content?

MK: No, just the generated content part is wrong.

JN: Just remove “or generated content”

MK: this one is using up and down arrow
... What did we spec?

JN: left and right work as well.

MK: it's the note that says only up/down work.

JK: I'll add that.

AA: shouldn't up and down move between radio buttons and selects?

BG: Avoid using “select” because people confuse it with aria-selected.

MK: Should we clarify that one particular note?
... The second one.
... Clarify: all have tabindex=-1 except for first one.
... Clarify where links after heading goes

MB: Should it say “div element with role”?

MK: In the guide we would write it more general. In this case you're describing the code; so doesn't really matter.
... Leaning toward being more specific.

MB: Agree.

MK: We had this high contrast discussion where we talked about examples with generated content. And some with inline content.
... Should we say something about generated content/background images with High Contrast?
... Generated content is often used for radio buttons and checkboxes.

* long discussion about whether we should address generated content usage in the guide *

MB: I'll add generated content flavoured radio buttons to this example after Jemma is done with it.

MK: OK, I'll create a bug now.

<mck> 29336 – Determine how to address high contrast mode compatibility of images in custom widget development

<mck> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29336

Continue review of sections 2.12 Dialog (Tooltip) and 2.22 Popup Help (aka Bubble Help)

MK: Last week we were on the verge of eliminating the tooltip.

<mck> http://www.w3.org/TR/wai-aria-practices-1.1/#popuphelp

MK: Is there anything in 2.22 we want to save?

MB: I don't see anything.

JN: I see nothing of value in this.

https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=29327

Update pattern work assignments and status https://github.com/w3c/aria/wiki/Aria-Authoring-Practices-Patterns-Status

<jemma> https://github.com/w3c/aria/pull/125/commits

https://github.com/w3c/aria/pull/125

<jemma> this is last commit I made today. https://github.com/a11ydoer/aria/commit/e768891ef7447d3ca9464eedbf9194541b2b2020

JN: looks good to me.

MB: +1
... Merged.

<jemma> :-)

<jemma> mk: ie. div of combo box, have editable content, with aria own control- you can not use the combo box as list(combo box value) and input value at the same time.

MK: You can have another div containing the combobox element that you can style
... I'm saying there should be an element with role=combobox

BG: I'm saying it shouldn't have to

<jemma> me/ I am not sure whether I understand the combo box issue.

MK: It doesn't say how you should specify the value of a combobox
... I'm trying to clear up the meaning of the autocomplete part.

<jemma> it seems combo box is complex issue

MK: complexity might be caused by spec.
... This discussion might be out of scope for this meeting.

<jemma> s me/ /msg

MK: Hope you'll participate in discussion when it comes up.

BG: Yes I will.

Zakim make minutes

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<jemma> s/ me/ /msg

<jemma> s/me//msg

s/me///me

RSSAgent, make minutes

Summary of Action Items

Summary of Resolutions

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