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<trackbot> Date: 09 July 2015
<mdjp> https://github.com/WebAudio/web-audio-api/issues/560
<scribe> scribenick: chrisl
<scribe> Meeting: WebAudio call
<padenot> java !?
joe: why does this interact with any of those attributes?
matt: You are quite right
joe: we can close this
<BillHofmann> (Sorry guys, BART delays)
matt: so its the playbak duration as it changes when you change playback rate?
joe: think commentor is confused on playback rate. happy to explain it to them
matt: ok, you do that. leave uncommitted for now
joe: I emailed the speadsheet tha daniel compiled. it tells a good story
daniel: cmpilation of each attr
and method, and says what is being used in the tests. also all
the enums and additional informative sections on
computation
... does not include interactions between parts
joe: we decided not to take a
fine garined, testable assertion approach. just looking over
the obvious broadly categories of attrs, methods and
events
... not a guarantee of complete assertion coverage
daniel: also noticed tha among the tests, audio worker has zero test coverage. its completely empty
ChrisL: (audio worker was a later addition, hence no tests and ppoor implementation)
matt: and the spec needs tightened up somewhat, too.
cwilso: yes, that is waiting for me
padenot: talked at Moz summit,
and have some time to work on it now. lots of getting rid of
worker and building a lighrter thing
... could work on this soon
cwilso: great, pressed for time with new quarter. please go ahead and then ping me
padenot: was going to ask if it was ok to put a draft up and get feedback
cwilso: sat with alex russel and andrez(?) about how to better implement. had some ideas. no way to load/parse/compile js out of thread, in our engine or across engines
padenot: that should be ok. gecko does it already though :)
cwilso: happy for you to take a stab at it
joe: ok lets assign paul to that issue
padenot: great
shepazu: note that excel spreadsheets are poor to exchange info. maybe a google doc or wiki page
joe: it was exported from a google doc actually
matt: happy with either
shepazu: better to have a persisting link to a live doc
matt: where do we need to be, to estimate how much work remains?
joe: need process for adding additional test. and don't know how implementors will use it, w3c does not have a driver
daniel; we have a driver but it does not worjk for the chrome and mox tests
joe: at least everything is in one place
matt: how would you usethis for testing, paul and hongchan?
hongchan: you mean using the w3c
driver?
... generally good idea to have a unifying framework, not sure
how to integrate that into our chromium test framework
though
matt: need to coordinate new test discovery
joe: need to hand it off, daniel
is not working on this indefinitely
... for rec track process it demonstrates the spec is tested
and testable, and others can run the tests
... also wquestions of how to discover the tests
shepazu: discussion on pointer events wg, about the same thing. ensuring that there is a usable ... so put in touch with those folks
daniel: they used intem (? sp ?) which runs all tests on all browsers. one issue is that to re-adapt tests to that format they need a flat out rewrite using node
matt; sounds like a good next step
scribe: any actions around this?
joe: fornow, not planning for daniel to do more until we have a settled direction. higher priority things right now. testing in better shape that I thought
matt: thanks daniel for this, goof to see
daniel: the pointer events guys used that. w3c uses test runner, and will try to see if i can get some chromium and moz tests to run in w3c test runner
matt: great, please let us know
joe; we have a coule of OPR on media capture spec, seem to be going ok
scribe: audio output api dangling as the chairs don't really want to do more on audio,m trying to get to last call
ChrisL: waiting to see what chairs say back to my proposal
joe: will then make a more involved PR
ChrisL: (explains how css wg pushes things to a new level to avoid impacting last call dates)
joe: implementation commitment would be helpful to convince media capture we need this
padenot: no specific timeline but definite implementor interest
<hongchan> sorry muted here locally.
padenot: can post a traceable
commitment
... seem to recall this is corret, need to check back and
re-read
matt: sounds like call for implementor support is dealt with,
joe: will crwate a new PR for audio output and share with the group. this is not for now though
matt: how long?
joe: august
matt: some issues still marked as needing WG review for v.1
matt: four issues
... three for cwilso - any discussion needed?
cwilso: looking at them real
quick
... audio worker paul is on that,532
... promises not discussed with tag. noise gate is waiting for
WG review, proposal made in november
... if its ok, I can do a PR
matt; everyone review the noise gate issue on the list, and raise any objections soonish, by next meeting, else assumed carried
matt: any other issues needing input to move them forward?
(no-one raises any)
matt: ok, spend the next 30 minutes doing your issues!!!
matt: 23 july
(general agreement)
my regrets for that meeting, travelling
matt; f2f at TPAC monday as originally planned
ChrisL: aim for 50:50 split
joe: we want 51%
shepazu: on web payments, new group. for web annotations, will be there mostly but available if needed. chris will handle most audio stuff at tpac
adjourned
oh, zakim, you obsolete heap of crap
<shepazu> s/for web annotations, will be there mostly but available if needed./I need to be there for web annotations on Mon/Tues, but will be available for Audio available if needed./
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