<trackbot> Date: 01 July 2015

Summer period (holidays etc).

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Steven: I will be away July 14- Aug 7.
... So I propose we stop mid-July, and restart Mid August
... so the last call will be next week, and we will restart Aug 19th

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Access to wiki

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Steven: Still no news.
... no replies to my emails; time to get cross

Erik: I would say

Debrief on Cross-device UIs workshop

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Steven: I went to a workshop in Germany, and got some interesting use cases. It would be easy in XForms, all we have to do is ensure that instances are synchronised with a server

Erik: I know some javascript packages thhat try to do that.
... Google had Google Wave, where the idea was that changes were synchronised
... it's now in Google docs, the underlying protocol
... Operational <something>
... what it is you are sunchronising exactly is not important.

Steven: Something interesting to think about for the future.

<ebruchez> http://www.waveprotocol.org/whitepapers/operational-transform

Erik: Operational transformation is what it was called

XML Amsterdam

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<ebruchez> Meteor was the JS framework I was looking for: https://www.meteor.com/

Steven: There will be an XML Amsterdam,, early November, at CWI.
... 6 November
... and I will be doing one of the keynotes.

public-xformsusers

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Steven: So Mark Seaborne has said he'll pick up the baton for the CG
... and he's working on it.
... The implementations I mentioned to him are: The living ones I know of are: XSLTForms, Orbeon, BetterForms, CM Pro, Jadu, Inventive Designers, OpenOffice/LibreOffice, IBM Lotus. If I think of any more I'll let you know.

http://www.cmprofessionals.eu/nieuws/xforms-workbench-trial-edition-announced-(english-only).aspx

http://www.jadu.net/xforms-professional-forms-solution

https://www.scripturaengage.com/blog/xforms-20

Alain: ODK

Steven: This one? https://opendatakit.org/

Alain: That's it.

Making <repeat> more usable

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2015Jul/0000.html

Erik: We have this in Orbeon
... we use a component

<ebruchez> https://github.com/orbeon/orbeon-forms/wiki/Form-Runner-~-XBL-Components-~-Grid#basic-usage

Erik: We have components based on XBL
... it's a bit more specific than what you suggest.
... Go to the link, and you will see something similar
... there are constraints involved, frozen rows, and other things

Steven: I'll take a look

Erik: Let me find a link to a screenshot

<ebruchez> https://github.com/orbeon/orbeon-forms/wiki/Form-Builder-~-Repeated-Grids

Erik: Also allows you to move things
... so basically I agree, you usually want the same thing, and that is more than XForms offers

AOB

Erik: Nothing

Alain: No thanks

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