Tzviya: "Any comments about approving
minutes?"
... "Ok, no one noted, meeting minutes approved"
Markus: "Should we have a meeting next week?"
<clapierre> -1
<HeatherF> -1
<brady_duga> -1
<mgylling> -1
<patrick> -1
+1
<Bill_Kasdorf> -1
<pbelfanti> -1
<Vlad> -1
<Mike_Miller> -1
Tzviya: "No meeting next monday"
<pkra> zakim +??P14 is me.
<pkra> what's the syntax again?
<pkra> Zakim ??P14 is pkra
<tzviya> https://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/May_2015_F2F_Logistics_and_Details
<pkra> thanks mgylling.
Tzviya: "Next agenda item: what do we
discuss on the face-to-face. I have some details and notes"
... "Things start at 8:30. The list has grown as to who is attending.
What is the protocol for entering the building - everyone's name will be
on security. Go to the security desk and get a pass to go to the FOURTH
FLOOR"
... "There is also going to be a webex call-in for those who wish to
attend from afar."
"if there are specific dietary restrictions, let me know"
Tzviya: "We're going to start by discussing
packaging. We'll talk about existing packaging options, as well as
packaging from the web. We're hoping that Daniel Applequest will call in
and provide more info. We'd like to discuss what will happen to
packaging for epub-web."
...: "we'll be discussing functional requirements for packaging, as well
as where we'll be going."
... "Then we'll ahve a short break, then discuss identifiers/identities.
Bill - we're hoping that you will be able to lead us through the
session. Discuss different identifiers and their usefulness. Spell out
the identifiers for online/offline uses. Might be a useful exercise to
take an identifier and talk through whether it meets our criteria."
Bill: "Unless there are additions, that's
pretty much what's on the wiki at the moment. I will start out with my
usual disclaimer. It has gotten to the point where it's at a technical
level that is much farther than what I know. Ivan and ?jon? have been
having most of the discussion."
...: "It's arguable that we've gotten past some of the discussion, but
talking about them and knocking them off may be good."
Tzviya: "The first step is defining what we NEED in identifiers"
Bill: "Yes, your proposed agenda seems to fit the mission and the identifiers IG."
Tzviya: "Great, we'll start discussing the
requirements, then any additional requirements. "
... "May be worth discussing all the identifiers to see why they are or
ARE NOT useful for us."
Bill: "We dont' want to be in conflict with the annotations working group and what they are working on."
Charles: "Suggestions: On the wiki with the schedule, maybe we should have links to relevant pages and agendas?"
Tzviya: "Absolutely - but we need to write
the agendas down somewhere."
...: "Next will be lunch, graciously sponsored by Hachette."
... "Then we'll be talking about CSS. We'll be hearing a summary of what
the CSS face-to-face is covering and where project houdini is
going/doing. And what else we can be doing to provide use-cases. What
exactly do we need to be doing to make sure pagination is a foremost
requirement. "
... "Accessibility is the next topic. A number of people will join us.
We'll be talking about working across different organizations. They'll
be working either in our WG or the BISG working group. Goal is to come
away with a great-plan to work together. Goal is to have distinct action
items for working together."
Bill: "Comment about distinct action items. Not just things we need to do together, but what things are in the BISG and what are on the DPUB side..."
Tzviya: "Then 30 minutes for education outreach."
<tzviya> Nick: ultimately the goal is a little bit of recruiting and making people aware of what we do
<tzviya> ...many potential members don't know/moderately aware of what W3C does
<tzviya> ...Working with Karen to create user-friendly layer on top of our documentation
<tzviya> ...For example, write a document that clarifies what acessibility documentation can do for you
<tzviya> ...I will walk through my plan, and we'll assess what DPUB IG thinks is most important to adress first
Tzviya: "Last session - addressing
re-chartering. This group is up in September, so we're working on
drafting a new charter. What will our group be like for the next 2
years."
...: "It's similar to what we've been doing but there is more
information, and also more actions than in the past. "
... "Please read the charter before hand. The board of the IDPF will be
there, as epub WEB and dpub aligns closely with them"
<mgylling> early draft at http://w3c.github.io/dpub-charter/index.html
...: "if you have anything in writing - contact Ivan. Otherwise we'll
discuss more things in the session."
... "This is one of the few times we get to see each other, and it's a
long day, but bring your brains with you."
... "contact Phil or Tzviya if there are food issues, or other issues."
... "Ok, there is allergies on the wiki"
<tzviya> https://goo.gl/TNvYEX
...: "As you all know the epub web whitepaper, which was one of the things we hoped to have as the centerpiece, you'll see that is the main theme to work towards."we establish a version of epub that is not at all packed
in a zip file, but lives on a server. Would be a different
manifestation. All properties and outlines. But everything allowing for
browser consumption."
...: "The OPF format, but not quite in a zip. You could have multiple
manifestations. It has never taken off, never been utilized."
... "It does have alot of connections with the epub web format. The
online reading. I'm sure the epub working group will be reaching out to
get input on what we should be doing here."
<tzviya> nick: what would make
server-side implementation different about EPUB?
...: "If you unzip, no publisher can give it "directly" But it's
exploded."
... "There is a lot of transformation, so is there a better way to
handle things and make them more web-ready."
... "We need to do the research to determine what is needed and should
we do the work to have the new manifest."
<Karen> see you in NYC!