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HTML Media Task Force Teleconference

07 Apr 2015

Agenda

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
paulc, markw, pal, ddorwin, jdsmith, davide, +1.303.661.aaaa, BobLund, joesteele
Regrets
Chair
Paul Cotton
Scribe
joesteele

Contents


<trackbot> Date: 07 April 2015

<paulc> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2015Apr/0005.html

<paulc> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2015Apr/0005.html

<paulc> Scribenick: paulc

Media TF F2F meeting, Wed-Thu Apr 15-16

14 people including A11Y experts have registered: https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/40318/html-april-2015/results

Paul is re-arranging a teleconference facility which is being arranged.

ACTION-80?

<trackbot> ACTION-80 -- Paul Cotton to Organize potential f2f topics part of wiki and sent out notice asking for input from tf -- due 2015-03-31 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/media/track/actions/80

close action-80

<trackbot> Closed action-80.

Potential discussion topics: https://www.w3.org/wiki/HTML/wg/2015-04-Agenda#Potential_Topics

>The F2F meeting will be held on the Microsoft campus in Redmond, WA in the XXX room of Building 43.

XXX will be updated today.

Basically attendees will go to Building 43 reception, get a vistors pass and then be accompanied to the meeting room

The meeting will start at 9:30am on Wed. So Jerry and Paul will be there at 9am to greet people.

See https://www.w3.org/wiki/HTML/wg/2015-04-Agenda#EME_open_bugs_and_issues

markw: How do we prepare for the meeting?
... I will prepare a summary of the first three items.

<joesteele> chair: paulc

<joesteele> scribenick: joesteele

paulc: Mark please put in a status summary at the end of each of those items
... name in square brackets at the front will help

<paulc> paulc: Just add your [name] at the front of any items you are interested in and/or are voluteering to lead the discussion on.

<scribe> scribe: joesteele

paulc: given the large number of bugs for EME, do the editors have a preference on how to process?
... I added a list in order
... would like to know which folks would like to discuss
... can do in the un-conference on the first day, but if we don't process ahead of time we will go through every one

ddorwin: I would want to focus on the ones people have interest in, not just process all of them
... folks should list the ones they want to discuss
... might need to re-org the page a bit to include a section for bugs folks want to discuss

paulc: think they can add right under the topic
... folks travelling to the F2F have an interest in getting things done, and should indicate which ones they are interested in
... Joe, not sure whether you have vetted the items with your names on them for awhile

joesteele: I will have to review for closed/decided ones

paulc: wiki could use better formatting
... any other questions about F2F?
... adjournment time on Thursday, no earlier than 3PM
... can stay beyond if we have critical mass

Issue #45 - Remove "persistent-release-message" MediaKeySessionType

https://github.com/w3c/encrypted-media/issues/45

paulc: push back on this issue
... david, you want to comment?

ddorwin: some discussion online, have not had a chance to fully read and reply yet
... let's continue at the F2F

paulc: ok I will add to the list of issues for the F2F

markw: this is related to the issues already on the wiki

<paulc> >Review the disposition of the session/key persistence issues 16,18,20,26

ddorwin: we should figure out what it really means, do the others really belong

paulc: at least one of these got closed

markw: some are uncontroversial, we should review?

paulc: that sounds right

joesteele: we just need to vett the list now

paulc: mark, sounds like it would be a good idea to split this up and review
... might not need to spend any time at all
... on ones that are resolved

Issue #39 - MediaKeyStatusMap: Replace maplike with explicit methods

https://github.com/w3c/encrypted-media/issues/39

ACTION-78?

<trackbot> ACTION-78 -- Mark Watson to Look into @@iterators for issue 39 -- due 2015-04-06 -- CLOSED

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/media/track/actions/78

paulc: response from Mark saying we had taked care of this, but has been some pushback
... thats why I included it

<paulc> See push back on arbitrary order: https://github.com/w3c/encrypted-media/issues/39#issuecomment-85559459

paulc: want to make sure we are all on the same page

markw: I don't have anything to add here

paulc: so you think we have agreement, maybe ignore the concern expressed?
... might just put a warning in the docs?

markw: I would be happy with that, but other folks should consider

paulc: is issue-39 marked for implementation?

ddorwin: yes

paulc: think we can leave the status the way it is

Bug 26776 - Diagnosing and resolving CDM errors needs a numeric systemCode (deleted with MediaKeyError)

https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=26776

ACTION-79?

<trackbot> ACTION-79 -- Jerry Smith to Draft a proposal for returning errors as per bug 26776 -- due 2015-03-30 -- CLOSED

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/media/track/actions/79

jdsmith: in the hands of the editors

Issue #9 - Remove note that MediaKeySession events may not be fired until the MediaKeys object is associated with a media element

https://github.com/w3c/encrypted-media/issues/9

paulc: also from a previous mtg
... did this yesterday

<paulc> https://github.com/w3c/encrypted-media/issues/9#issuecomment-90257480

markw: I think the proposal to resolve was david's idea, that apple maintain the possibility of not firing the event
... the brower can make the decision of how to handle
... this turns into an explicit capability detection

paulc: comments?
... can we resolve now?

<paulc> See previous comment: https://github.com/w3c/encrypted-media/issues/9#issuecomment-75681264

paulc: Mark does your proposal go against this comment?
... "we specifically asked for this message to be added ..."

markw: the proposal is consistent with what he is asking for, the behavior would be allowed, but is explicitly exposed

paulc: any other comments? or can we resolve?

joesteele: +1 to resolving

paulc: does anyone object with resolving?

ddorwin: I am concerned about the impact for apps that want to support Apple, but this seems likes the simplest path forward. I am fine with it

paulc: OK then hand to the editors
... thanks Mark

Next Week

no mtg next week

paulc: would like to give folks this time back
... would like for folks to work on the wiki and figure out what is important
... see you all on the 15th at the F2F
... bye all

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