W3C

Education & W3C

06 Feb 2015

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Attendees

Present
Pierre Danet, Hachette; Ivan Herman, W3C; Judy Brewer, W3C; Sylvie Duchateau; Mark Sadecki, edX; David Sloan, Paciello Group; Sarah Horton, Paciello Group; Mark Hakkinen, ETS; Jean Charles Pomerol; Crispin Weston
Regrets
Jeff Jaffe
Chair
Pierre Dannet
Scribe
Judy, Pierre, davidsloan

Contents


Crispin Weston's presentation

(Slides are online)

... Crispin will now present

Crispin: I'll talk first about the history of edtech, then standardization opportunity
... slides were distrib by email
... edtech not extensive impact yet on education
... backed up by recent study from the UK
... for standards org, difficult to assess market need then.
... first must ask why not more effective.

<Pierre> instruction is interaction

Crispin: basis of ed is child interacting with a bicycle
... and there are other natural instructive partners

<Pierre> will try

Crispin: We haven't seen sufficient development of complex interactive software

<scribe> scribe: Pierre

Slide 5 representation of Bllom 's taxonomy

Instructional stack for digitizing interactions

Traditionnal teaching is managed by the teacher

Publisher providing textbooks

Teacher responsible for implementations

Digital Education : we do not want to replace the teachers

Slide 6

More process management type

Slide 7 : other way to characterize that

Activities embedded in a management cycle

Adaptive learning select next activities

Multiple activities in order to cover the curriculum

Interface between the two need standard (Red arrows)

Slide 8 : Pedagogy us activity sequencing

There are many sorts of sequences : according to performance, ...

Independent activities can be dependent on each other

scribe: There are many sorts of sequencing...

Slide 10 : abstract slide : around assessment

Assessment is a continuum....
... two triangles....
... Failure is key concept....
... we learn from failure....
... Reliable method to more integrated continuous assessment...

Slide 11 : Supply chain

scribe: Interactive courseware based on information and activity softwares....
... there are gaps in this edtech supply chain...

Slide 12 : expressing learning objectives

people based on paper and digital....
... Education is interested by capabilities...
... we often certificate people on performance and not on capability..
... Capability representation is needed...
... Capabilities taxonomies could be defined by different people...

Slide 17 : Moderation

An authority is mamanging a process...

Slide 18 : moving to standards

We do not have the management system we need

We do not have any interoperability between LMS and activity softwares

Slide 19 : Key standards in this area

History of the SCORM initiative, which was a collection of many standards

OILS: UK initiative

There were a lot of organizations involved

American department of Defense

SCorm 1.2 included CMI, content packaging

Legal disputes between IMS and EDL

Everything stopped

A lot of disccusions there

Slide 20 : how SCORM works

 Within the content package, you have a manifest and SCOs
... you can launch individual SCOS...
... SCO is an activity, with a beginning and an end
... 2004 : add of simple sequencing to that...
... it became complex.....
... need for in house implementation....
... othe people did not implement the runtime as well..
... dry TOC...

Slide 21 : Problems with SCORM

Legal disputes with IMS + Javascript API +

Fixed Data Model in CMI was a pbm....
... as knewton in the last Educ call...
... key point to draw out : field SCORM : SCO + Asset

You really can't have a fixed data model for innovation

scribe: more technical information needed (Transportation mechanism for example)...

Poor sequencing specification

Single learner model => No multi players ... gaming ??

2008: attempt to move beyond that

Slide 22 : Tin Can replaced Javascript

The Data model was very simple (Inspired by Social Networks)

Tin Can does not deal with object launches

Does not deal with metadata

Slide 23 : Standard issues

SCORM covered all the basis

We need multi player for pair learning

Datamodel definition language is necessary

LMS could basically discover

 sequencing...
... elephant to the room : Privacy for Data

Transparency at minimum

Discussion

Crispin focusing on interoperability, application development is a separate requirement

interoperability needs to be agnostic with regard to application platform

difficult to get consensus on something that hasn't happened yet, so standards creation is challenging

need to allow framework for innovation, and then specifications emerge from that

<Pierre> My question on privacy

Crispin: privacy is a key factor in this framework. Suggests create a description language that allows adaptation for different jurisdictions and legislatory environments

Judy: when W3C looks at taking on standardisation activity it needs to consider pressing needs; which organisations are active in this area and could partner; existing technical work in the area
... may be overlap with digital publishing activity

Ivan: W3C has focus of work, i.e. core web technologies. Difficult now to define what this is, but W3C does have some sense of what this is. Of standardisation questions raised in this and previous call's presentations, which are in areas within W3C expertise?

<Pierre> Data interoperability Platform

Crispin: depends on what you see the Web as. TinCan as an example provides a web service API. Real crying need in edu is what the Web can offer as data interoperability platform
... web services is a key area

Judy: mhakkinen may be able to comment on edu standards and core web technologies

mhakkinen: currently in transition from paper based delivery to web based rich assessments
... concerns over lack of harmonization in accessibility across different standards for assessment
... example new initiative of interest is AQTI (Accessible QTI)

<Pierre> Open learning XML

MarkS: right now, EdX started own standard on Open Learning XML (OLX), would be good to see commonalities with goals of this group

Pierre: we suggest using wiki to propose ideas for standardisation in education, for open discussion
... next call on 20 February will focus on discussion of wiki

<Pierre> -> Wiki site:  https://www.w3.org/wiki/AB/2014-2015_Priorities/w3c_most_important#Education_task_force

Summary of Action Items

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