29 Jan 2015

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Tzviya, Markus, ShaneM, ivan, Rich_Schwerdtfeger


<mgylling> matt.garrish@bell.net


<scribe> scribenick: Tzviya

markus: added 4 glossary-related terms to module
... "glossary" already exists, and we want to ensure that there aren't conflicts
... there are relationships to EPUB vocabulary

<ShaneM> www.w3.org/respec

markus: have qyestions about ReSpec and ARIA relationships
... what are the differences between rref, aref. and eref?

Shane: these are ARIA specific extensions
... rref allows you to reference a role in the parent document
... aref is refence to an attribute
... eref is refernce element

markus: for references to non-W3C specs (DAISY, EPUB), just use brackets

<ShaneM> [[shortname]]

<ShaneM> [[!normative]]

markus: other questions are pertaining to specifics of ARIA
...example: where is namefrom field to come from?

shaneM: these should not be author usually

markus: super class roles?

ShaneM: they are in the wiki now
... Glossary is a subclass of section (maybe)

markus: it could be landmark

shaneM: glossterm relies on aria 1.1's addition of terms

<ShaneM> https://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/DPUBVocabulary

shaneM: the parent role of glossdef should really be dfn, so the the role should really just fall out

markus: existing xhtml classes?

<richardschwerdtfeger> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1498

<richardschwerdtfeger> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/657

<richardschwerdtfeger> http://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/aria/dpub.html

shaneM: we can push a better defintiion into the document

markus: I left out a lot of fields, bc I don't know the best way to figure out how to fill this out

ShaneM: there is a processing script that will grab info based on parent roles

tzviya: which fields do we need to fill?

ShaneM: I will email list with list of fields that are magically populated

Rich: if glossterm and dfn and term do we need glossterm?

markus: this is a similar question to container elements

ShaneM: with regard to plurals/container elements: in reSpec, can define aliases
... so alias of "phone" can be "phones"

Rich: We should explain the usage contexts in which these terms might be used (e.g. a glossary might not be a stand-alone glossary)

ShaneM: is it your vision that glossterm/glossdef can exist outside of glossary?

tzviya: i'm fine with providing usage examples, but they get old very quickly

rich: just state that a glossary does not have to live in a stand alone section

Markus: Let's try to get a first ed draft out, and then do some intelligent thinking about usage
... we need to know which fields are generated
... so that we can move forward with adding the information

ShaneM: We are breaking new ground here, so there will be some birthing pains
... all the inherited elements are automatically populated.
... Local elements must be entered.
... note is a reasonable parent of footnote

<ShaneM> A section whose content is parenthetic or ancillary to the main content of the resource.

shaneM: there might be an obvious parent role, but we need to refine states
... and clarify interactivity
... Do "question" and "answer" imply interactivity?

tzviya: these are made to go either way

shaneM: parent roles will provide states depending on whether these are interactives

Rich: are these containers or specific types of questions?

tzviya: in EPUB vocab, there are more details about the types of questions (e.g. multiple choice)
... we just went with generic question and answer roles

rich: if it's a multiple choice question, can there be multiple UIs for this area?

tzviya: yes

<ShaneM> The component of a self-assessment problem that provides the answer to the question.

ShaneM: clarify definition of answer - unclear if is answer for teacher, student, etc

Rich: invite Mark H from ETS to discuss how to handle
... we need to understand how the interactive elements work

Tzviya: We will get the writing started first and then bring Mark in

Rich: we need to understand how the education and testing stuff will work in an interactive way

shaneM: the answer might be that the "answer" element is just a container

Rich: APIP is something that IMS is working on to deliver content in the form that you need


Summary of Action Items

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