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<mgylling> matt.garrish@bell.net
https://github.com/w3c/aria/blob/master/aria/dpub.html
<scribe> scribenick: Tzviya
markus: added 4 glossary-related terms to
module
... "glossary" already exists, and we want to ensure that there aren't
conflicts
... there are relationships to EPUB vocabulary
<ShaneM> www.w3.org/respec
markus: have qyestions about ReSpec and ARIA
relationships
... what are the differences between rref, aref. and eref?
Shane: these are ARIA specific extensions
... rref allows you to reference a role in the parent document
... aref is refence to an attribute
... eref is refernce element
markus: for references to non-W3C specs (DAISY, EPUB), just use brackets
<ShaneM> [[shortname]]
<ShaneM> [[!normative]]
markus: other questions are pertaining to
specifics of ARIA
...example: where is namefrom field to come from?
shaneM: these should not be author usually
markus: super class roles?
ShaneM: they are in the wiki now
... Glossary is a subclass of section (maybe)
markus: it could be landmark
shaneM: glossterm relies on aria 1.1's addition of terms
<ShaneM> https://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/DPUBVocabulary
shaneM: the parent role of glossdef should really be dfn, so the the role should really just fall out
markus: existing xhtml classes?
<richardschwerdtfeger> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1498
<richardschwerdtfeger> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/657
<richardschwerdtfeger> http://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/aria/dpub.html
shaneM: we can push a better defintiion into the document
markus: I left out a lot of fields, bc I don't know the best way to figure out how to fill this out
ShaneM: there is a processing script that will grab info based on parent roles
tzviya: which fields do we need to fill?
ShaneM: I will email list with list of fields that are magically populated
Rich: if glossterm and dfn and term do we need glossterm?
markus: this is a similar question to container elements
ShaneM: with regard to plurals/container
elements: in reSpec, can define aliases
... so alias of "phone" can be "phones"
Rich: We should explain the usage contexts in which these terms might be used (e.g. a glossary might not be a stand-alone glossary)
ShaneM: is it your vision that glossterm/glossdef can exist outside of glossary?
tzviya: i'm fine with providing usage examples, but they get old very quickly
rich: just state that a glossary does not have to live in a stand alone section
Markus: Let's try to get a first ed draft
out, and then do some intelligent thinking about usage
... we need to know which fields are generated
... so that we can move forward with adding the information
ShaneM: We are breaking new ground here, so
there will be some birthing pains
... all the inherited elements are automatically populated.
... Local elements must be entered.
... note is a reasonable parent of footnote
<ShaneM> A section whose content is parenthetic or ancillary to the main content of the resource.
shaneM: there might be an obvious parent
role, but we need to refine states
... and clarify interactivity
... Do "question" and "answer" imply interactivity?
tzviya: these are made to go either way
shaneM: parent roles will provide states depending on whether these are interactives
Rich: are these containers or specific types of questions?
tzviya: in EPUB vocab, there are more
details about the types of questions (e.g. multiple choice)
... we just went with generic question and answer roles
rich: if it's a multiple choice question, can there be multiple UIs for this area?
tzviya: yes
<ShaneM> The component of a self-assessment problem that provides the answer to the question.
ShaneM: clarify definition of answer - unclear if is answer for teacher, student, etc
Rich: invite Mark H from ETS to discuss how
to handle
... we need to understand how the interactive elements work
Tzviya: We will get the writing started first and then bring Mark in
Rich: we need to understand how the education and testing stuff will work in an interactive way
shaneM: the answer might be that the "answer" element is just a container
Rich: APIP is something that IMS is working on to deliver content in the form that you need