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1. Reminder on SVG2 Accessibility API Mappings (Rich) 2 minutes
2. Action 1 update - where are we on definitions for staw man taxonomy (Fred) 2 minutes
<richardschwerdtfeger> this #svg-a11y is 2742
3. Joint meeting with SVG WG (Doug) 5 minutes
3. Review of chart type taxonomy (Doug)
<richardschwerdtfeger> http://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/svg-aam/svg-aam.html
<scribe> scribe: fesch
rs: discussion on SVG2 Accessibility API Mappings
fesch: can start email threads on taxonomy definitions
<richardschwerdtfeger> fred: posted a .doc file of the taxonomy
<richardschwerdtfeger> fred: will post an HMTL version
doug: please use HTML format instead of docs
<shepazu> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-a11y/2015Jan/0006.html
<AmeliaBR> Doug's email: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-a11y/2015Jan/0006.html
doug: I think it is good to come
from both angles - doesn't see a big difference between the
staw man taxonomy
... chart type taxonomy has more properties - roles, category,
values, parent applies to...
... describing axis
fesch: issues on "aria-axisdimension"
doug: may have different level of abstractions - depending on whether we have well known charts or not
jw: aria defines a ontology which
is a conceptional hierarchy, and we may have very specific kind
some may instantiate and some more abstract
... lets think of this a hierarchy
doug: in aria 1 you can't instantiate an higher level abstract role, we will allow instantiating higher level roles
rich: discussion on
aria-axisdimension can be a attribute...
... don't need to include role in the attribute name -ie
aria-axisdimension could be dimension
doug: thinks the long name aria-axisdimension makes it easier for software to read it
fesch: discussion on axis vs dimensions
doug: lets delay detailed
discussion on axis vs dimension
... described legends
... described dataset
... might have multiple datasets in a chart
fred: does a dataset = a table?
amelia: a dataset could be a table and rows are a data point
doug: data set may not = a table
amelia: likes term facet
doug: tried to limit aria roles
and attributes to make it easy to put in the SVG
... tried to map to objects in the SVG
rs: doug is saying axis is an important container... affects the mapping specification which we need to consider
doug: advantage is you must be explicit so the screen reader can extract the information
rs: each role has a defined name computation strategy - two ways to approach it, name from content... we don't want name from context
doug: mentions different facets, x, y, legend, size.... might have invisible facet in there
rs: what is strategy on axis labels?
doug: strategy varies
... for value min and value max might be better strategy than
worrying about axis ticks
... should have document on interaction modes
rs: graphs may be
scrollable....
... do you think scrollable interaction is valuable or not?
doug: yes
fesch: defender view vs scrollable, zoomable - scrollable, zoomable get whole chart, defender view - get a window - as a entire chart
amelia: likes strategy of focusing on mappings... will work on strawmen and keeping stuff general
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