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<trackbot> Date: 18 December 2014
<paulc_> is aware of the MIT network issues
<paulc_> ... but I can now access the w3c.org home page which I could not do 10 mins ago
<scribe> scribe: plh
<paulc_> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2014OctDec/0014.html
action-249?
<trackbot> action-249 -- Robin Berjon to Triage new whatwg updates, html bugs, landscape document in order to list priority content for modules -- due 2014-11-25 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/249
Paul: Robin met with the chairs
and provided an update in the action
... early january is more likely
action-251?
<trackbot> action-251 -- Sam Ruby to Contact public identifiers and form http extension proponents to ask what they plan to do w/ the specs -- due 2014-11-27 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/251
Paul: sam contacted the
authors
... last update was a week ago
... anything left to do?
sam: I did what was asked but further tasks need to be done
close action-251
<trackbot> Closed action-251.
action-252?
<trackbot> action-252 -- Sam Ruby to - contact polyglot proponents to ask what they plan to do w/ the spec -- due 2014-11-27 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/252
Sam: I like to declare defeat on that one
Paul: declined the IE
invitation
... we'll take this back in early January
action-254?
<trackbot> action-254 -- Robin Berjon to Triage and prioritise DOM bugs based on incompatible tests (+XMLDocument#load) -- due 2014-12-19 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/254
Robin: still on it and still plan to finish this year
paul: are you going to send a summary to the group?
robin: it's a mixed
... some test fixes, bugs against the spec, etc.
... so we'll have to see if further subsetting is needed
<paulc_> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2014Dec/0025.html
Paul: team and chairs discussed
and we sent out an email that the tf was dissolved
... did its job 5 years ago but email went dead in 2014
... and doing testing has chaanged
... some +1 were received
Janina: looking at the
future
... to improve accesskey
... we may have common requirements with the annotation folks
when pointing to elements in the page
... possibility a common requirement
paul: main thing is work on
access key and making it a module. he'll contact Robin for
that
... to follow the new methodology from Robin
Robin: sure
Janina: question from media
subteam
... got late comments from bbc on the media requirements
... we probably ask the tf if it's ok to publish as Note
... is it something we should ask the wider group?
paul: you're always welcome to ask for the wider review
<Zakim> tantek, you wanted to point out nav-index and previous key-equivalent CSS properties, as well as directional navigation
Tantek: since you're looking at
accesskey (great news!), we have related work in css3 UI
... so see if there are materials there
<tantek> http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css-ui/#nav-index
Tantek: we have the nav-index
property
... and related directional-navigation property
<tantek> http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css-ui/#nav-dir
Tantek: it's in css because it
alters the display order
... any kind of arrow key focus needs to be aligned with the
display order
... accesskey, we did try to develop an equivalent in the
past
... but had a lot of issues
... so we postponed it
... it was an attempt to upgrade accesskey to work new devices
and physical access
<tantek> http://www.w3.org/TR/2003/WD-css3-ui-20030703/#key-equivalent
Tantek: it was dropped in the
past
... so feel free to look into those materials
Janina: thanks. we also tried in
PF and failed
... keyboard isn't enough
... touch and voice need to be accommodated
... maybe we need user defined
... and would need to go back to the use cases
... user defined target?
Tantek: would nice to have the
author make its targets accessible through different
means
... but don't know where to start
... so +1 for your work
<Zakim> ShaneM, you wanted to mention text alternatives tentative schedule
Shane: text alt document
schedule
... we welcome bugs until january 9 and have updated draft by
end of january
<paulc_> Media TF continues to meet weekly. A few MSE implementation bugs including the HTTPS question discussed at TPAC are still open. Some progress on MSE CR testing by Cyril. About 24 EME bugs. Next meeting is Tue Jan 6 (MSE) and then Jan 13 (EME).
Paul: EME bugs are down 30% from
TPAC
... HTTPS is blocking a third of the remaining bugs
... so slow and steady progress
Sam: all bugs have been fixed
<rubys1> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-canvas-api/2014OctDec/0051.html
Sam: so should be able to go back
to CR
... testing is stalled
... consensus is to keep the 2005 process
paul: beyond the 2 bugs, there were additional ones
paul: a search for bugs in canvas
cr and I get two hits
... not sure if they're new or not
sam: we'll go back to LC
<paulc_> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-editing-tf/
Robin: editing tf has been very
active
... looking at various aspects of the whole editing space
pb
... contentEditable is broken and unsuable
... idea is to expose the functionatilities of contentEditable
in more useful ways
... looked at libraries
... ck, aloha, etc.
... tf has been hashing a number of solutions
... intention event to convey the action of the user
... bolding, etc.
... some basic functions for selection
... all browser do that but no alignment
<scribe> ... new values for the content attribute
UNKNOWN_SPEAKER: we're near the
top to be able to show things to the broader group
... hope to get discussion in early january
<darobin> https://github.com/w3c/editing-explainer
UNKNOWN_SPEAKER: feel free to look at the documents
Paul: it's *really* active
Robin: yes indeed
<darobin> actually this is an easier source: http://w3c.github.io/editing-explainer/
<paulc_> Possible meeting at MIT Jun 9-12 in a room in classroom style
<paulc_> plh: Currently working on determining conflicts
Paul: January 8
... not sure who will chair
... any volunteer to scribe?
... Happy holidays to all
... safe travel
<paulc_> Happy holidays
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