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<trackbot> Date: 17 December 2014
<scribe> scribe: MichaelC
js: no more meetings in 2014 after today
next meeting is Wednesday 7 January 2015
back on bi-weekly schedule from there
though not many working days between now and then, will use it to kick off the year
jc: Events spec on hold until editing task force determines their events structure
then we´ll know what needs to be done with IndieUI Events
can still publish a heartbeat if there´s enough there
for User Context, several features are being incorporated into CSS4
some already in webkit nightly
monochrome and color inversion
also discussed some visual features with them
more recently, in CSS some have expressed support for adding a security model to media queries
or to develop a shared security model between IndieUI and CSS
use case: implementer wants info about caption font preferences
could leak information about user
but useful to some sites, so should have a model to make available on per domain basis
rs: is IndieUI API in webkit nightlys?
jc: a patch exists, but needed more work
staffing changes have stalled further work
js: is it useful, or anti-useful to publish heartbeat of Events while we sort stuff out?
rs: Events could proceed, user context might want to sit on
jc: there are some significant changes since last WD
js: so let´s do in Jan
<jcraig> Current ED has 1.5 years of updates:
<jcraig> http://rawgit.com/w3c/indie-ui/master/src/indie-ui-events.html
doable?
<jcraig> Substantive, normative changes since the last public working draft
<jcraig> 18-Aug-2013: Enum constants formerly defined in UIScrollRequestEvent, UIValueChangeRequestEvent, and UIFocusRequestEvent have been changed to WebIDL enumeration identifier strings. (ACTION-64)
mc: let´s do CfC to publish on the 7th closes the 14th
<jcraig> 18-Aug-2013: Event initializer dictionaries (UIRequestEventInit, UIFocusRequestEventInit) were missing inheritance declarations in the IDL.
<jcraig> 22-Aug-2013: Feature detection section recommends direct object detection now rather than using DOMImplementation.hasFeature().
then we can publish 22 Jan
<jcraig> 5-Mar-2014: Added continuous events for Manipulation Requests (zoom, pan, move, rotate) as well as for Scroll Requests.
<jcraig> 15-May-2014: New UI Triggers section.
<jcraig> 16-May-2014: New UI Manipulators section (partial).
js: what about user context?
jc: there´s only been one key change since FPWD
mc: what was outcome of TPAC discussion?
jc: resulted in changes to CSS
pointer precision
some pointers have more inherent precision than others
<jcraig> action-91?
<trackbot> action-91 -- James Craig to Add additional keys from CSS4 Media Queries: light-level, hover, pointer, etc. http://dev.w3.org/csswg/mediaqueries-4/#pointer -- due 2014-09-24 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/track/actions/91
some input devices have natural tremor that has to be accounted for
which overlaps with hand tremor etc.
<jcraig> action-93?
<trackbot> action-93 -- James Craig to Consider transparency reduction preference -- due 2014-10-01 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/track/actions/93
some other stuff from TPAC might be stuff we could publish in Spring
<jcraig> action-94?
<trackbot> action-94 -- James Craig to Consider increased contrast setting in addition to user colors -- due 2014-10-01 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/track/actions/94
mc: for events heartbeat, should we add to intro / status about work with WebApps?
<scribe> ACTION: cooper to draft frontmatter for webapps relationship for indieui events [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/12/17-indie-ui-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-96 - Draft frontmatter for webapps relationship for indieui events [on Michael Cooper - due 2014-12-24].
<richardschwerdtfeger> http://www.w3.org/wiki/WebSchemas/Accessibility#accessibilityFeature_in_detail
rs: have actio to create edits for user context spec for schema.org
<richardschwerdtfeger> http://www.w3.org/wiki/WebSchemas/Accessibility
these are resource metadata
<richardschwerdtfeger> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pb92piOlud5sXQadXYnbmtp9LCut26gv8ku-qqZTwec/edit#gid=0
I am creating a proposed mapping for properties
in above doc
have to share on request
feel free to edit
trying to steer towards more booleans
js: Lots of other agenda that we need to get to
but aren´t anywhere now on those topics
so let´s adjourn for the year
Next Meeting: 7 January 2015
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