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Protocols and Formats Working Group Teleconference
16 Dec 2014

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Attendees

Present
Joseph_Scheuhammer, Rich_Schwerdtfeger, Cynthia_Shelly
Regrets
David_Bolter, Joanie_Diggs, Bryan_Garaventa
Chair
Joseph_Scheuhammer
Scribe
Rich

Contents


<trackbot> Date: 16 December 2014

<clown> agenda: this

<scribe> scribe: Rich

ACTION-1254: (Joseph) Consume/cancel keydown event when keypress is consumed/cancelled.

<clown> action-1254

<trackbot> action-1254 -- Joseph Scheuhammer to Work with WebApps working group to ensure that DOM spec states when a keydown event is consumed/cancelled that the corresponding keypress event is also cancelled. -- due 2014-12-09 -- OPEN

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1254

JS: There is a section in the keyboard mapping section that states when a keyboard down even is cancelled that the keypress is also cancelled.
... We do have tests they all passed. FF:Windows, FF:Linux, Safari:OSX

Rich: just give Cynthia the url to test

JS: I can
... Webapps guy I spoke to said yes this is spot on.
... This matches what the webapps working group is doing for DOM3

CS: you can close the action item

RS: +1

RESOLUTION: Close action 1254

ACTION-1542: (Joseph/Joanie) Verify the commit for mozilla bug 1013584 and report the atk role to joseph.

<clown> action-1542?

<trackbot> action-1542 -- Joanmarie Diggs to Verify the commit for mozilla bug 1013584 and report the atk role to joseph. -- due 2014-12-02 -- OPEN

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1542

JS: this has to do with tables and lists that are marked with role=“presentation” and what FF is doing
... Joanie wanted them to be mapped to divs

RS: Why so many ways

JS: that is Joanie’s question

CS: list items are a kind of paragraph

JS: table cells become role “textframe"
... Joanie instigated from the Gnome point of view and ATK/ATSPI

<clown> action-1445?

<trackbot> action-1445 -- Joseph Scheuhammer to Investigate the ideal uai mapping for role presentation in tables and lists. -- due 2014-12-16 -- OPEN

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1445

CS: I will look at the use of a “paragraph” role for presentational list items as part of the inheritence defect I am lookin at. (Issue 1445)
... there is a paragraph thingy that is part of the textPattern

RS: So, that list becomes one or more text patterns

JS: Can I send this back to you to flesh this out?

CS: yes but not until after the first of the year
... January 20 meeting

ACTION-1372: (Cynthia) Create a test case, if there is none, to test the rowgroup role.

<clown> action-1372?

<trackbot> action-1372 -- Cynthia Shelly to Create a test case, if there is none, to test the rowgroup role -- due 2014-11-15 -- OPEN

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1372

CS: There are a lot of test cases that are related
... The firs one in the list of test cases asks if it is invalid if it is not part of a grid but IE passes it

JS: There is just this element with row “rowgroup” on it

CS: Is this a good enough test case?

JS: This is test case 56
... it passes in IE back in March 2012
... I have a fail for FF ATK/ATSPI September 2012

RS: rowgroup used to be mapped to none in FF

<clown> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/testharness/testresults?testsuite_id=1&testcase_id=56

JS: This failed in IE.

RS: What does the current document say?

<clown> http://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/core-aam/core-aam.html#role-map-rowgroup

<scribe> ACTION: Cynthia document rowgroup mappings for IE 11 for both UIA Express and UIA [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/12/16-aapi-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-1544 - Document rowgroup mappings for ie 11 for both uia express and uia [on Cynthia Shelly - due 2014-12-23].

<scribe> ACTION: Joanie make sure the rowgroup mapping for ATK/ATSPI is accurate [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/12/16-aapi-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-1545 - Make sure the rowgroup mapping for atk/atspi is accurate [on Joanmarie Diggs - due 2014-12-23].

<scribe> ACTION: David make sure the rowgroup mapping for MSAA/IA2 is accurate [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/12/16-aapi-minutes.html#action03]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-1546 - Make sure the rowgroup mapping for msaa/ia2 is accurate [on David Bolter - due 2014-12-23].

JS: rowgroup specifies one or more structured elements in a grid or treegrid by implication
... The test case does not do that

RS: It is a feature

<scribe> ACTION: Rich update test test cases involving rowgroup to ensure they are included within a grid container and to ensure that the expected result matches the new mappings [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/12/16-aapi-minutes.html#action04]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-1547 - Update test test cases involving rowgroup to ensure they are included within a grid container and to ensure that the expected result matches the new mappings [on Richard Schwerdtfeger - due 2014-12-23].

ACTION-1515: (Rich) Discuss issue-678 at the ARIA caucus teleconference.

<clown> action-1515?

<trackbot> action-1515 -- Richard Schwerdtfeger to Discuss issue-678 at the mon aria teleconference. -- due 2014-12-09 -- OPEN

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1515

Continue with ACTIONs/ISSUEs for core-aam 1.1: https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/products/23

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: Cynthia document rowgroup mappings for IE 11 for both UIA Express and UIA [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/12/16-aapi-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: David make sure the rowgroup mapping for MSAA/IA2 is accurate [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/12/16-aapi-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: Joanie make sure the rowgroup mapping for ATK/ATSPI is accurate [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/12/16-aapi-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: Rich update test test cases involving rowgroup to ensure they are included within a grid container and to ensure that the expected result matches the new mappings [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/12/16-aapi-minutes.html#action04]
 
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