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<trackbot> Date: 19 November 2014
<janina> agenda: this
<janina> Argh, Zakim is REALLY slow today!
<janina> Patience should get you there eventually!
<scribe> scribe: JF
JS: appears taht there will not
be a PF Editors call today
... no other items
JS: any edits or corrections needed?
RESOLUTION: publish last week's Minutes to the public list as is
<janina> No meeting next week, November 26
<janina> We WILL meet December 3, 10, & 17
<janina> No meeting December 24 or 31
<janina> We RESUME on January 7.
JS: No meeting next week due to
US Thanksgiving
... sub-teams to make their own schedules
... any questions/concerns?
SM: learning/reviewing open action items
ACTION 1522
<ShaneM> ACTION-1522
<trackbot> ACTION-1522 -- James Nurthen to Try to find an example where user style sheet cannot override author intent -- due 2014-11-19 -- OPEN
<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1522
<ShaneM> Not yet complete. Extend another week.
JN: have not had a chance to look at it yet
ACTION 1526
<Gottfried> action-1526?
<trackbot> action-1526 -- Matthew King to Propose practices for fallback role of text in authoring guide -- due 2014-11-17 -- OPEN
<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1526
SM: that seems to be it for this week
JS: not sure if there is anything today
SM: link only lists LC
specs
... new: pointer events
<ShaneM> http://www.w3.org/TR/pointerevents/
SM: clearly has ARIA impacts
JF: IndieUI
JS: yes they would be interested too
<ShaneM> http://www.w3.org/TR/mixed-content/
SM: next is mixed content
... loading non-encrypted content in encrypted pages
JN: error messaging would be an issue here
<ShaneM> ACTION: Shane to review Mixed Content for A11Y concerns [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/11/19-pf-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-1536 - Review mixed content for a11y concerns [on Shane McCarron - due 2014-11-26].
JS: need to note that messages are a11y friendly - i.e. don't use color alone
Gottfried: there are 2 sections there that will need to be reviewed
SM: that seems to be it for LC, will look at FPWD as well
<ShaneM> http://www.w3.org/TR/webvtt1/
SM: WebVTT FPWD
JF: the fact that Silvia and David Singer are involved bodes well. Suggest that it be tossed to media sub-team for closer review
JS: asking Jason if he is aware of the back-story
<ShaneM> There are no other new drafts this week.
JF: discussing differences between WebVTT and TTML
JW: the differences is the question to be looked at
JS: there are also differences at
legal level - TTML has big traction at FCC, etc.
... core question was whether technology could translate from
one format to another
... media sub-team meets Monday
... will move discussion there
SM: that is all for FPWD
JS: that is "done" - Rich will start to spin things up likiely starting next week
JS: nothing new to bring to this
group. There is a lot of activity in ARIA - looking at
heart-beat publication mid-December
... any ARIA issues to bring forward?
... there may be some movement of meeting times
JN: some folks in EU find that
FRiday evening calls are 'difficult'
... so probably will move to Monday's
[discussion around scheduling this group - nothing specific]
JN: looking at each individual
authoring guidance, review and comment
... will be slow going, but progress is being made
JS: any other topics related to
ARIA here?
... Joanie noted that some mapping issues were incorrect -
Joanie to file bugs
CS: who is driving the HTML mapping now?
JS: unsure, think Jason Kiss is involved, perhaps Steve F as well
CS: will check with both to determine
JS: activity in media sub-team.
processing comments from MAUR and working through them.
Anticipate resolution within next 2 weeks
... looking to publish before DEcember cut-off for
publishing
... this is an influential document, and will gain when it
moves out of Draft
... Steve's Alt Text document is actually more than just using
@alt
instead about HOW to provide textual alternatives
JS: a tad ackward since @longdesc is still not in PR today
SM: not that huge an issue
JS: also have aria-describedat in the wings
<fesch> aabb is Fred Esch
JS: interested to see if this
surfaces bugs against HTML5 REc
... we just need to keep an eye on this
... looking to avoid any 'blowup' due to poor communication
SM: comment on MAUR, I made all of the edits discussed on Monday, so we seem ready to go
JS: noted that one observation
was that WCAG needs more cross-references as well
... seems we are done.
... ends the meeting. Happy Thanksgiving to all US based
attendees