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<scribe> ScribeNick: glazou
DongYoung: CSS Extensions for round display
… could or should extend CSS to support round displays for wearable and mobile
… shows smart watches and cover of smartphone
<hyojin_song> glazman, thanks a lot for your help
… limitations triggered thoughts about CSS extnsions for that
<scribe> … new devices emerging with round displays
… but web made for rectangular displays
DongYoung: suggesting a MQ to dectedt round screens
… device-radius property, inspired by border-radius
<link media=“screen and (device-radius: 50%)“…
DongYoung: other shapes of display are possible so we need to control the radius
… we’re reusing the concept of border-radius
… for non supporting devices, screen is clipping
… similar to android wear defining two styles one for rectangular, one for round
… also detection from JS
<scribe> … new property of Screen
<scribe> … new property of body element
… Screen.radius and document.body.border-radius (sic)
glazou: you cannot have border-radius here, that’s considered as an option
florian: this is interesting, you have a good point
… there are not only circles
… doing better than circles is interesting but what about another shape
… still this is the good direction
… bring it to www-style !!!
florian: plenty of things to discuss but good starting point
DongYoung: ContentAlignment is needed
… to fit contents inside the screen
… you want the contents to fit into the rounded display
… shape-inside property !!!
… but if text at the bottom, you need to overflow _up_
… difficult issue
… proposal to add a ‘display’ value to shape-inside to constrain rendering
<scribe> … new border-shape property
… display or nodisplay (default) values
… constrains the border to the edges of the display
florian: make border follow the shape inside and not the display to be more generic
DongYoung: yes maybe
BradK: should be in the Shape spec
florian: exactly
DongYoung: layout
… elements can be for instance placed along a circles
… polar coordinates then, like in LG G3 cover
… one thing we could do is properties polar-angle and polar-distance
… with position polar
… position: polar
florian: you position the center and then the rest?
DongYoung: yes
TimCole: what does position polar do for you?
florian: could you position absolutely and transform them?
DongYoung: sure !
… easy to write a toolkit for that
… but easier for us to develop if done that way
LouayBasbouss: what is the %age about?
DongYoung: of the radius
florian: problematic
DongYoung: we need minimal extensions to CSS for round displays
… detection
… alignment
… border containment
… polar coordinates in layout
<Bert> glazou: I encourage you to subit the idea to www-style. Please also attend the next CSS ftf and present to the WG.
<Bert> ... No doubt there will be chnages, but I think people understand the requirements.
<Bert> ... There will be compromises, of course.
Florian: your proposal will be ack'd
… and discussed
BradK: you’re proposing a new position scheme
arron: yeah, we could use position absolute
florian: does it work like a transform or like a positioning thing
glazou: you may want to put transformations ontop of position
plinns: can glue them
DongYoung:
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florian: first start with a polyfill
TimCole: not a css issue eactly but that’s related to ordering of things
… how do you address this kind of issues ?
DongYoung: not really sure
glazou: polyfill?
DongYoung: planning one
glazou: would be cool and helpful to play with ut
florian: what about scrolling?
… there are MQ in the work for that sort of detection
… already on our radar
… compatible with the use case
… I need your feedback
BradK: shape inside does not allow scrolling right ?
florian: no
... shape-inside and overflow-fragment could help
DongYoung: extra comments
... thanks again for joining the session
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