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Protocols and Formats Working Group Teleconference

08 Sep 2014

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Attendees

Present
Regrets
Chair
Rich
Scribe
Susann_Keohane

Contents

<trackbot> Date: 08 September 2014

<richardschwerdtfeger> Meeting: W3C WAI-PF ARIA Caucus

<richardschwerdtfeger> chair: Rich

<richardschwerdtfeger> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-pfwg/2014Sep/0031.html

<MichaelC> https://w3c.github.io/wcag/coga/gap-analysis.html

<richardschwerdtfeger> scribeNick: Susann_Keohane

<clown> issue-633?

<trackbot> issue-633 -- listbox and tree may contain only static items; badly need interactive widgets that can contain interactive typed items -- raised

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/633

633

Matt: create a role like list_view to basically create a list of any interactive elements from articles, search results, list of checkboxes, links
... anything to interactive with and navigate

Rich: not select but navigate (arrow key navigation)

<jcraig> topic?

<Stefan> +q

MAtt: current listbox is limited to static element

<Stefan> +q

Rich: what if there was a subclass something like group, a list navigable group

<richardschwerdtfeger> ACTION: Matt Create proposal for a role and strategy to address Issue 633 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/09/08-aria-minutes.html#action01]

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<richardschwerdtfeger> ACTION: mattking Create proposal for a role and strategy to address Issue 633 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/09/08-aria-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-1505 - Create proposal for a role and strategy to address issue 633 [on Matthew King - due 2014-09-15].

<Stefan> -q

jamesn: make it generic enough to support all type sof widgets

cynthia: may want to look at UIA patterns

<clown> http://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/implementation/aria-implementation.html#mapping_additional_nd

Splitting out Name and Description into separate document (To cover SVG2 and HTML5)

rich: svg and html are becoming more aligned

jamesn: agrees it should be broken out but should point to a list of the host language

rich: appears to be consensus for this topic

RESOLUTION: break out the name and description into a separate spec and Joseph to be editor

jamesn- so sorry, I'm not sure how to fix it

jamesn - I do not.

<clown> Accessible Name and Description Computation.

<clown> Accessible Name and Description Mapping Computation

<clown> Name and Description Accessibility Mapping ?

MichaelC: pick a placeholder name for the short term
... when we approach publication pick a proper name

rich: we want to make sure there are no charter issues before publications
... for ARIA 1.1 are we only testing for HTML?

MichaelC: how we cross ref the normative ref could impact what we have to test
... separation allows for sequestering testing

<richardschwerdtfeger> ACTION: Joseph create editors draft of name/description computation document in github [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/09/08-aria-minutes.html#action03]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-1506 - Create editors draft of name/description computation document in github [on Joseph Scheuhammer - due 2014-09-15].

open action and issues

<clown> action-1073?

<trackbot> action-1073 -- Matthew King to Update aria-selected to reflect that it communicates selectability and clarify responsibility for ensuring aria-selected=false is on selectable elements -- due 2012-06-11 -- OPEN

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1073

<clown> action-1346?

<trackbot> action-1346 -- Matthew King to Propose edit to dialog role to clarify issue that leads to bad implementation -- due 2014-01-31 -- OPEN

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1346

<clown> action-1151?

<trackbot> action-1151 -- Michael Cooper to Create a flowchart or process diagram of the ARIA accessible name computation -- due 2014-09-08 -- OPEN

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1151

<clown> action-1322?

<trackbot> action-1322 -- Jon Gunderson to Make some examples for aria-hidden="false" (including a hidden live region) -- due 2013-12-23 -- OPEN

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1322

<clown> action-1335?

<trackbot> action-1335 -- James Craig to Propose edit for issue-493 to explicitly disallow strings matching "" or "undefined" in this sentence: content authors must provide values for required states and properties. -- due 2014-01-30 -- OPEN

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1335

<clown> action-1338?

<trackbot> action-1338 -- Michael Cooper to Patch issue-504: Remove aria-checked from radio role in spec and taxonomy -- due 2014-01-30 -- OPEN

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1338

<MichaelC> action-1352 due 20 Oct

<trackbot> Set action-1352 Patch issue-576: add aria-posinset, and aria-setsize to tab role due date to 2014-10-20.

<clown> action-1341?

<trackbot> action-1341 -- James Craig to Patch issue-514: treegrid and grid propagation requirement should be normative. -- due 2014-01-30 -- PENDINGREVIEW

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1341

<MichaelC> action-1429 due 20 Oct

<trackbot> Set action-1429 Add aria-orientation to additional aria roles in taxonomy graph (ISSUE-579) due date to 2014-10-20.

<jcraig> action-1341

<trackbot> action-1341 -- James Craig to Patch issue-514: treegrid and grid propagation requirement should be normative. -- due 2014-01-30 -- PENDINGREVIEW

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1341

<clown> action-1504?

<trackbot> action-1504 -- Joseph Scheuhammer to Core-AAM mappings of aria-readonly="true" when propagated to gridcell. -- due 2014-09-16 -- PENDINGREVIEW

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1504

<clown> AXValue (not writable)

<jcraig> issue-514

<trackbot> issue-514 -- #treegrid has normative-like statement with no normative requirements: "The value of the treegrid element's aria-readonly attribute is implicitly propagated to all of its owned gridcell elements, and will be exposed through the accessibility API." -- open

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/514

<jcraig> close action-1341

<trackbot> Closed action-1341.

RESOLUTION: action 1431 is completed and closed

<clown> http://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/implementation/aria-implementation.html#ariaReadonlyTrue

<clown> Set Value.IsReadOnly="true"

<clown> Note, the above is for UIA.

RESOLUTION: close issue 514

<jcraig> close issue-514

<trackbot> Closed issue-514.

<clown> action-1342?

<trackbot> action-1342 -- James Craig to Patch issue-523: searchbox/searchfield role which is a subrole of textbox/textfield -- due 2014-01-30 -- OPEN

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1342

<clown> action-1345?

<trackbot> action-1345 -- James Craig to Propose an edit issue-545 resolving live region changes to dom vs a11y tree -- due 2014-01-30 -- OPEN

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1345

<jcraig> action-1345

<trackbot> action-1345 -- James Craig to Propose an edit issue-545 resolving live region changes to dom vs a11y tree -- due 2014-01-30 -- OPEN

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1345

<clown> action-1347?

<trackbot> action-1347 -- James Craig to Add an attribute for differentiating modal vs non-modal dialogs/menus/etc. (possibly aria-modal) -- due 2014-01-31 -- OPEN

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1347

<clown> action-1349

<trackbot> action-1349 -- James Craig to Patch issue-561: we need @aria-placeholder as backup for @placeholder in custom fields. -- due 2014-01-31 -- OPEN

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1349

<clown> aciton-1352

<clown> action-1352

<trackbot> action-1352 -- Michael Cooper to Patch issue-576: add aria-posinset, and aria-setsize to tab role -- due 2014-10-20 -- OPEN

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1352

<clown> action-1355

<trackbot> action-1355 -- Richard Schwerdtfeger to Propose specific edit for issue-588: clarify rowheader and columnheader selection -- due 2014-01-31 -- OPEN

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1355

rssagent, draft minutes

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: Joseph create editors draft of name/description computation document in github [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/09/08-aria-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: Matt Create proposal for a role and strategy to address Issue 633 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/09/08-aria-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: mattking Create proposal for a role and strategy to address Issue 633 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/09/08-aria-minutes.html#action02]
 
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