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<PhilA> scribe: ... Now there's a question
<PhilA> scribe: adler1
PhilA: round of how the groups are going
danbri: had a WG meeting in London. Divided up work. we haven't had group members jump in to work through the details
arnaud: the working group has
decided to go to CR and we've been trying to have a call to go
to CR and ask for extra 6 months extension
... this thing called paging that we want to continue working
on and not to hold back the main spec we work on that
separately
... we are working on a patch format for RDF
... the rec is to use patch but there is no standard patch
format for RDF so we are developing one
<PhilA> scribe: PhilA
adler1: We're getting ready to published our UCR at FPWD
PhilA: Probably Tuesday
adler1: We're going through pub
steps
... we have sub groups looking at vocabs
... we'll have more use cases to add in
... need to have more connectivity between the use cases. Will
need refining
... some members are organising sub groups
... focussing on quality and gran
... Team had gelled well
<scribe> scribe:ad
<scribe> scribe: adler1
PhilA: things are moving on
... RDF validation
PhilA: we had a workshop at
MIT
... we are having some difficulty getting sufficient member
support
<tbaker> +1
<danbri> 10-11 September 2013 http://www.w3.org/2012/12/rdf-val/
PhilA: there is a second member
submission going through the process
... should be published very soon
<danbri> (revision to http://www.w3.org/Submission/2014/01/ ?)
PhilA: then we will draft a charter
Arnaud: I'm not happy with how
things are going
... the only way to judge member support is to put a proposal
forward
... process is develop charter and put it before the AC
PhilA: pushing for charter to be put forward
Arnaud: do we have a public mailing list?
<danbri> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-shapes/
Arnaud: people are already using this stuff
<danbri> 'we do have'
thanks
scribe: we should have an actual working group launch
PhilA: we will get it going in the next weeks
<Zakim> tbaker, you wanted to ask whether the name is officially still "Resource Shape" and not "Data Shape"
tbaker: renaming datashape
<tbaker> ok - thank you!
PhilA: we are aware and try to fix it
PhilA: we are making a lot of progress
<PhilA> Draft report http://www.w3.org/2014/03/lgd/report
PhilA: workshop back in march report
<PhilA> Draft charter http://www.w3.org/2014/05/geo-charter
PhilA: end result is a draft
charter
... we are in active neg to make joint wg
... should be a message to membership on friday
... I'm hoping google will be in
... big geospatial conference in denmark
... please do not tweet until friday afternoon
... what is the boundary between geospatial wg and other LD
groups
... and geolocation web api wg
... and front end web developers
... how to get it into people's browsers
... standards body politics
... standards have less value if no one uses them
<PhilA> adler1: You may wish to take a different approach than the norm. You might get participation from some, but you may miss the huge vibrant companies (Leaflet etc.)
<PhilA> ... without their awareness you'll have limited impact
<PhilA> ... may need a different approach
<PhilA> geospatial is such a huge/vibrant segment
PhilA: that is why we are working with OGC
UNKNOWN_SPEAKER: CSV, DWBP, RDF
Validation are meeting there
... is anyone else planning anything else in Santa Clara?
<danbri> (re geospatial, it would be good to do a proper obituary on the POI WG work to avoid making same mistakes)
UNKNOWN_SPEAKER: we might
organize side events
... anyone?
<PhilA> adler1: Describes some of the webinars held by DWBP, planning to organise a f2f meeting with open data publishers in Santa Clara
<PhilA> ... talking to City of Palo Alto etc
<PhilA> ... hoping they'll host us
<PhilA> ... bring in folk from oakland, San Jose etc
<PhilA> ... bring in some ideas from them
<PhilA> ... hoping to reach out to Code for America too
<PhilA> ... want to socialise with the hacker community
<PhilA> ... so hoping they can host something too
PhilA: lots of talks at
events
... keynote at semtech
... need really cool stuff to say
... breadth of successes
... please point me to success stories
... solid business cases
... need help with that
<tbaker> what is the working title of your keynote?
capture utilization rates. how widely RDF is being used
scribe: should we build services
that use linked data and talk about how they are operated
... should we give guidance
<tbaker> http://semtechbizsj2014.semanticweb.com/sessionPop.cfm?confid=82&proposalid=6667 - Phil's keynote
<PhilA> adler1: W3C's audience is highly specialised. Need to make it easier for everyone. Facilitate more understanding, speed adoption rates
<PhilA> ... so work product isn't a document...
<PhilA> adler1: Resources is an issue. But maybe work with implementation examples, services etc.
PhilA: allowing non specialists
to realize the benefits
... any other comments
schluss
<JeniT> sounds similar to https://code.google.com/p/linked-data-api/
next meeting is july 16
thanks