<trackbot> Date: 12 March 2014

Announcements etc

Debriefing from XML Prague? [Alain?]

Steven: How was it?

Alain: Interesting for XForms
... many cites of XForms
... about HTML5, instead of using XForms namespace, we could could use xforms- for elements i.s.o namespace
... a new XSLT2 engine for browsers, compared with XFOrms
... Erik vd V about testing platform
... formula EMC still being developed, and added to platform
... and XProc, using XForms

Steven: 'xformsunit' was the testing platform?

Alain: How to run tests automatically, testing XForms implementations

Steven: http://xformsunit.org/

Alain: All talks are on Youtube, so you can see everything

Steven: http://www.youtube.com/user/XMLPrague

Daylight Savings

Reminder about today and next two weeks.

Steven: For another two weeks, Europe is an hour earlier

Extending the standard controls

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2014Mar/0002.html

Erik: Nothing to add here.

@label (etc)

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2014Mar/0008.html

Steven: We agreed to do it, didn't make a resolution and then it got forgotten.
... what should we do?

Erik: It should be easy.

Alain: Agree.

RESOLUTION: We will add the @label alternative agreed on earlier.

<scribe> ACTION: Steven to implement @label spec text [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/03/12-forms-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-1967 - Implement @label spec text [on Steven Pemberton - due 2014-03-19].

Steven: I think for <item> that the <value> element is a string value, and @value is an expression

<ebruchez> <item label="New York">NY</item>

<ebruchez> <option value="NY">New York</option>

Erik: I'm not sure which I want

<ebruchez> <item label="New York" value="..."/>

Steven: Since it is <option> in HTML and <item> in XForms, I don't think we have to worry about the loss of consistency there too much
... I think @value consistency across all elements in XForms is more important

<ebruchez> <item label="New York" value="ny"/>

Erik: I think that is OK. There is always the risk that someone will write {above}, but that wont work anyway.
... There is no easy way to avoid that.

Steven: So we shall resolve that @value is always an expression?

RESOLUTION: @value is an expression whereever it is used

ACTION-1966 - Check editorial note about untypedatomic in 4.3

[search XPath specs]

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2014Mar/0011.html

Steven: Nothing to do then, right?

Erik: Not an easy topic, those specs are huge, and the intent is not always clear, but I think we're covered.

Removed Datatypes section from XPath Expressions module

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2014Mar/0012.html

Erik: Now we have done what was in the note, the section can go.
... all datatypes are in the main spec anyway.

AOB:

Erik: Is there an action item for @labels

Steven: Yes, to me

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