HTML Weekly Teleconference -- 27 Feb 2014

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<gitbot> 13html/06feature/whatwg 141a72d8d 15ianh: [giow] (3) Define how focus navigation works...

<SteveF> darobin: where for art thou?

<jgraham> Why is darobin? Well his parents loved each other very much. And when two people love each other very much…

<darobin> hmpf?

<SteveF> darobin: bad bear wondering about Remove at risk features from CR HTML5 spec bug

<SteveF> there is some stuff on that list that is implemented

<SteveF> color for example chrome and firefox

<darobin> SteveF: I think the idea behind opening that bug was precisely to ferret out what shouldn't be on the list anymore

<SteveF> darobin: ok will go back to sleep then

<darobin> heh

<silvia> ;-)

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<gitbot> 13syntax/06master 140bc936f 15Michael[tm] Smith: Exit the meta@name maintenance business.

<rubys> trackbot, start meeting

<trackbot> Date: 27 February 2014

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<scribe> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference

Date: 27 February 2014

<scribe> Scribe: krisk

ACTION items due by Thursday, February 27

rubys: none

Last Calls

SUBTOPIC: Polyglot Markup: A robust profile of the HTML5 vocabulary Last Call

rubys: we have one bug that really shoudl have been multiple
... see http://tinyurl.com/pzo933q

Eliot: working on the bug -editoria

SUBTOPIC: W3C DOM4: Last Call ends 04 March 2014

rubys: no bugs http://tinyurl.com/q6ea7mn

A11y TF has yet to ask for an extension

glenn: How many issues/bugs?

rubys: I don't expect much

paulc: robin indicated we have tests for most as well

glenn: It would be good to bring CSS OM into this doc

plh: It's my understanding lots of work would be needed to bring this into the DOM4 spec
... We have recharted the working group which woudl take alot of time to change the charted to include this work
... CSS is also rechartering right now

glenn: It's odd because it's JS api's in the CSS working group which doesn't get alot of attention

paulc: I suggest you raise this on public html

glenn: sounds great, will do

CR Progress

SUBTOPIC: Canvas2D:

see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2014Feb/0052.html

janina: Expect some hit testing is needed, Firefox has it in a nighly and a test page exists
... We have not heard back from google, a date to match Firefox
... which would let us meet the min requirements for getting this in the L1 spec
... Basically by have two implementation and getting the spec correctly written which will take time

rubys: The time is weeks to get this done?

janina: yes

rubys: any other comments?

SUBTOPIC: HTML5.0

rubys: we are down to 6 plus 1 bugs (http://tinyurl.com/le59ctq)

Robin and Steve are going to get down with their bugs by March 15th

Alt issues, Steve Faulkner:

https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=23059

https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=24182

<plh> https://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/HTML_Normative_References

glenn: How are we going to get normative parts of the WhatWG spec?
... added to the w3c version?
... For example url parsing

plh: robin has a page
... It sounds like a bug, please open one or more if needed

glenn: what about encoding?

plh: This was very recent

glenn: What about xml http request?

plh: It's a bug

glenn: Sounds like you are working on this plh so I trust it's in good hands

rubys: Hoping to hear back from hober
... on Caseless matching (Ted O'Connor)
... We'll review and remove at risk features after the F2F

plh: Area and Aria won't be at risk

see -> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=24812

plh: We will be talking with IETF about url parsing next week in london

Task Force Reports

SUBTOPIC: Testing Task Force

I don't have much to report but will send out some info about DOM4/request

plh: some more pull requests have been made
... so we are going in the right direction

krisk: I looked at some that appear old, but they were waiting for an update from the submitter
... I also will take a peek at all the tests looking for any brokeness

SUBTOPIC: Accessibility Task Force

janina: We want to skip CR and go to PR before the F2Ffor long desc
... since we have implementation
... We looked a DOM4 and don't have issues
... This is because DOM mutation events have been added which is a boom for accessibility
... I'll send this formally later
... We do have some editorial comments, but these are not accessibility conserns

rubys: Will these come in as comments of bug reports?

janina: comments and not bugs

rubys: Bugs please for these comments on the DOM4 spec

<Zakim> plh, you wanted to mention the testing dashboard

<plh> http://testthewebforward.org/dashboard/#wg-html

<plh> http://testthewebforward.org/dashboard/#html

krisk: That is nice, I was using github links https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/issues?labels=2dcontext

paulc: Can I ask plh a question on these pages?
... Is this for HTML or others?

plh: Others as well just change the drop down and the first one will list all pull requests

paulc: The most look on HTML, is this correct?

plh: Yes about 100 total and 50 on HTML

paulc: This is useful

SUBTOPIC: Media Task Force

<paulc> EME agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2014Feb/0012.html

paulc: On EME the task force is dealing with hard bugs (~20 bugs) and once we fix one another new hard bug comes up
... We are going to meet more often to make faster progress

<janina> Canvas a11y support in Firefox nightly thread begins at:

<janina> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2014Feb/0074.html

<plh> http://testthewebforward.org/dashboard/#media-source

paulc: For MSE we should see some tests submitted soon if not already
... TF has been mostly focused has been on EME
... It's not clear if Media TF will ask for time at the F2F

plh: A few have registered already from the Media TF
... one pull request does exist for MSE
... Who is working on these tests?

paulc: I can't recall

Other Business

F2F Agenda

please updated the wiki if needed see https://www.w3.org/wiki/HTML/wg/2014-04-Agenda#Potential_Topics

rubys: As normal we'll refine at the start of the F2F
... any, other, other business?

<rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2014Feb/0084.html

plh: Art asked a question http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2014JanMar/0018.html

rubys: The topic was about heartbeat hell for EME

paulc: The chairs should choose and report back on how we want to deal with this request

rubys: any other business?

I can scribe

<plh> regrets from me

rubys: let's adjourn

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HTML Weekly Teleconference

27 Feb 2014

Attendees

Contents

ACTION items due by Thursday, February 27

Last Calls

CR Progress

Task Force Reports

Other Business

Summary of Action Items

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