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13:38:21 <Steven> zakim, this will be xhtml
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13:38:21 <Zakim> ok, Steven; I see IA_XHTML2()9:45AM scheduled to start in 7 minutes
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13:38:30 <Steven> rrsagent, make log public
Steven Pemberton: rrsagent, make log public ←
13:38:43 <Steven> Meeting: XHTML2 WG Weekly Teleconference
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13:42:07 <Roland> Zakim, aaaa is Roland
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13:42:08 <Zakim> +Roland; got it
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13:43:14 <RolandMerrick> RolandMerrick has changed the topic to: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2008Apr/0001.html
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13:44:04 <Zakim> +??P9
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13:44:18 <Steven> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2008Apr/0001
13:44:22 <Steven> Steven has changed the topic to: Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2008Apr/0001
Steven Pemberton: Steven has changed the topic to: Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2008Apr/0001 ←
13:44:49 <Roland> Meeting: XHTML2 WG Weekly Teleconference
13:45:11 <Roland> Chair: Roland
13:45:27 <Roland> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2008Apr/0001.html
13:45:43 <Steven> zakim, dial steven-617
Steven Pemberton: zakim, dial steven-617 ←
13:45:43 <Zakim> ok, Steven; the call is being made
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13:45:45 <Zakim> +Steven
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13:46:07 <Steven> zakim, who is here?
Steven Pemberton: zakim, who is here? ←
13:46:07 <Zakim> On the phone I see Roland, ??P9, Steven
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13:46:08 <Zakim> On IRC I see yamx, myakura, Roland, Lachy, Zakim, RRSAgent, ShaneM, CSB, Tina, Steven, krijnh
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13:46:26 <Zakim> +ShaneM
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13:46:29 <Steven> zakim, ??P9 is alessio
Steven Pemberton: zakim, ??P9 is alessio ←
13:46:29 <Zakim> +alessio; got it
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13:48:17 <Zakim> +Gregory_Rosmaita
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13:49:20 <yamx> Zakim, P12 is yamx.
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Unknown yamx: Zakim, P12 is yamx. ←
13:49:20 <Zakim> sorry, yamx, I do not recognize a party named 'P12'
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13:49:29 <yamx> Zakim, ??P12 is yamx.
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Unknown yamx: Zakim, ??P12 is yamx. ←
13:49:29 <Zakim> +yamx; got it
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13:53:43 <oedipus> SP: editors of CSS Namespace contacted us to find if formal objection; we said yes, if comment rejected; spoke with chair of WG and he said it hadn't been discussed -- was a decision by fiat by the editors -- means we are in limbo awaiting a formal response from WG -- had separate discussion with CSS WG that i didn't copy to XHTML2 list because according to charter, they are member-only, and i quoted member-only text so couldn't forward to XHTML2 list
Steven Pemberton: editors of CSS Namespace contacted us to find if formal objection; we said yes, if comment rejected; spoke with chair of WG and he said it hadn't been discussed -- was a decision by fiat by the editors -- means we are in limbo awaiting a formal response from WG -- had separate discussion with CSS WG that i didn't copy to XHTML2 list because according to charter, they are member-only, and i quoted member-only text so couldn't forward to XHTML2 list [ Scribe Assist by Gregory Rosmaita ] ←
13:53:53 <oedipus> scribe: oedipus
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13:54:03 <oedipus> scribe: Gregory_Rosmaita
13:54:06 <oedipus> scribeNick: oedipus
13:54:38 <oedipus> SP: have to go to CSS lists to read my comments; last exchange with chair was last friday, so if don't hear anything by this friday, will ping them
Steven Pemberton: have to go to CSS lists to read my comments; last exchange with chair was last friday, so if don't hear anything by this friday, will ping them ←
13:54:55 <oedipus> RM: waiting for official response from CSS working group
Roland Merrick: waiting for official response from CSS working group ←
13:55:08 <oedipus> SP: mentioned at HTC, but only very briefly
Steven Pemberton: mentioned at HTC, but only very briefly ←
13:55:13 <oedipus> RM: no discussion in minutes
Roland Merrick: no discussion in minutes ←
13:55:20 <oedipus> TOPIC: Reviews
13:55:28 <oedipus> RM: XML Base Second Exition
Roland Merrick: XML Base Second Exition ←
13:55:36 <oedipus> SP: need to review because we reference it
Steven Pemberton: need to review because we reference it ←
13:55:44 <oedipus> SP: should ensure is still ok for our needs
Steven Pemberton: should ensure is still ok for our needs ←
13:56:22 <oedipus> yam: process for going back to PR
Toshihiko Yamakami: process for going to Proposed Edited Rec ←
13:56:59 <oedipus> SP: if make normative changes, don't need to go back to LC, if have errata, apply to spec, then proposed edited recommendation; should be NO normative changes -- just clarifications and errata
Steven Pemberton: if make normative changes, don't need to go back to LC, if have errata, apply to spec, then proposed edited recommendation; should be NO normative changes -- just clarifications and errata ←
13:57:19 <oedipus> s/back to PR/to Proposed Edited Rec
13:57:32 <oedipus> SP: can look at XML Base -- what is deadline?
Steven Pemberton: can look at XML Base -- what is deadline? ←
13:57:40 <oedipus> RM: 30 June 2008
Roland Merrick: 30 June 2008 ←
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13:58:17 <Steven> 04stevenpemberton: 01Topic: CSS Namespaces Module
13:58:17 <Steven> 04stevenpemberton: 01Roland: So we now have a formal issue, is that right?
Roland Merrick: So we now have a formal issue, is that right? ←
13:58:17 <Steven> 04stevenpemberton: 01Steven: Well it turns out that the WG hadn't discussed it, and it was the editors who had decided to reject us
Steven Pemberton: Well it turns out that the WG hadn't discussed it, and it was the editors who had decided to reject us ←
13:58:17 <Steven> 04stevenpemberton: 01... so we are in limbo still, waiting for a reposnse from CSS WG
... so we are in limbo still, waiting for a reposnse from CSS WG ←
13:58:17 <Steven> 04stevenpemberton: 01Topic: XML Base
13:58:19 <Steven> 04stevenpemberton: 01Roland: So we should review this?
Roland Merrick: So we should review this? ←
13:58:21 <Steven> 04stevenpemberton: 01Steven: Well we do reference it
Steven Pemberton: Well we do reference it ←
13:58:23 <Steven> 04stevenpemberton: 01Yam: What is a PER?
Toshihiko Yamakami: What is a PER? ←
13:58:25 <Steven> 04stevenpemberton: 01Steven: Mostly editorial and errata
Steven Pemberton: Mostly editorial and errata ←
13:58:27 <Steven> 04stevenpemberton: 01Roland: Who will review?
Roland Merrick: Who will review? ←
13:58:29 <Steven> 04stevenpemberton: 01Steven: I am happy to
Steven Pemberton: I am happy to ←
13:58:31 <Steven> 04stevenpemberton: 01ACTION: Steven to review XML Base by 30 June
ACTION: Steven to review XML Base by 30 June ←
13:58:47 <Steven> s/Stevenpemberton: //G
s/Stevenpemberton: //G (warning: replacement failed) ←
13:58:55 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes
rrsagent, make minutes ←
13:58:55 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/04/02-xhtml-minutes.html Steven
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/04/02-xhtml-minutes.html Steven ←
13:59:03 <Steven> ACTION: Steven to review XML Base by 30 Juner
ACTION: Steven to review XML Base by 30 June ←
13:59:05 <oedipus> scribe: steven
13:59:11 <Steven> s/Juner/June/
13:59:22 <Steven> Topicc: FtF
13:59:29 <Steven> s/cc/c/
13:59:44 <Steven> Shane: I should have the contract finished this week, will post details after that
Shane McCarron: I should have the contract finished this week, will post details after that ←
13:59:49 <Steven> Topic: CURIEs
14:00:17 <Steven> Steven: So the TAG comments came in before I sent the last call
Steven Pemberton: So the TAG comments came in before I sent the last call ←
14:00:47 <Steven> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-html-editor/2008JanMar/0014.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-html-editor/2008JanMar/0014.html ←
14:00:56 <Steven> Shane: So we need a WG response to these
Shane McCarron: So we need a WG response to these ←
14:02:06 <ShaneM> http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2008/03/27-minutes
Shane McCarron: http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2008/03/27-minutes ←
14:02:06 <Steven> Shane: The minutes of the meeting where they discussed this are worth reading
Shane McCarron: The minutes of the meeting where they discussed this are worth reading ←
14:02:38 <Steven> http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2008/03/27-minutes#item02
http://www.w3.org/2001/tag/2008/03/27-minutes#item02 ←
14:04:17 <Steven> Roland: Are any of their comments no longer valid against the latest draft?
Roland Merrick: Are any of their comments no longer valid against the latest draft? ←
14:04:25 <Steven> SHane: I think so
Shane McCarron: I think so ←
14:04:45 <Steven> s/SH/Sh/
14:05:01 <Steven> ... for instance a comment about the RDFa spec
... for instance a comment about the RDFa spec ←
14:05:45 <Steven> Steven: Good to see "We agree RDF languages need this ... it shd be allowed to proceed"
Steven Pemberton: Good to see "We agree RDF languages need this ... it shd be allowed to proceed" ←
14:08:43 <Steven> Steven: Shall I draft a reply for the group to consider?
Steven Pemberton: Shall I draft a reply for the group to consider? ←
14:09:18 <Steven> Roland: I think it should be split into several replies, one on syntax, one on background, requirements, ...
Roland Merrick: I think it should be split into several replies, one on syntax, one on background, requirements, ... ←
14:11:10 <Tina> Steven: the minutes posted, under issue 35
Steven Pemberton: the minutes posted, under ISSUE-35 [ Scribe Assist by Tina Holmboe ] ←
14:12:36 <Steven> Shane: Some of their issues seem not to be to the point
Shane McCarron: Some of their issues seem not to be to the point ←
14:12:40 <Steven> ... or miss something
... or miss something ←
14:13:38 <Steven> Shanhe: Unfortunately this blocks the role module
Shane McCarron: Unfortunately this blocks the role module ←
14:13:52 <Steven> s/he:/e:/
14:15:06 <Tina> Ah. Thank you.
Tina Holmboe: Ah. Thank you. ←
14:15:26 <Steven> Steven: THey are allowed to be one step out of sync
Steven Pemberton: They are allowed to be one step out of sync ←
14:15:30 <Steven> s/TH/Th/
14:15:47 <Steven> ROland: Is role ready to go?
Roland Merrick: Is role ready to go? ←
14:15:52 <Steven> s/RO/Ro/
14:16:03 <Steven> SHane: Yes
Shane McCarron: Yes ←
14:16:08 <Steven> s/SH/Sh/
14:16:52 <Steven> Gregory: We (WAI) arranged a special meeting with HTML5 people to discuss Aria, and no one from HTML5 turned up
Gregory Rosmaita: We (WAI) arranged a special meeting with HTML5 people to discuss Aria, and no one from HTML5 turned up ←
14:16:58 <Steven> ... so we are ignoring them for the moment
... so we are ignoring them for the moment ←
14:17:08 <Steven> Shane: ANyway, role is ready to go
Shane McCarron: Anyway, role is ready to go ←
14:17:16 <Steven> s/AN/An/
14:17:25 <Steven> Roland: Then let's go
Roland Merrick: Then let's go ←
14:17:46 <Steven> SHane: We should update the public WD of Curies so we can refer to it
Shane McCarron: We should update the public WD of Curies so we can refer to it ←
14:17:51 <Steven> s/SH/Sh/
14:18:51 <Steven> RESOLUTION: Produce a new public WD of CURIEs
RESOLVED: Produce a new public WD of CURIEs ←
14:19:07 <Steven> Roland: Take role to last call?
Roland Merrick: Take role to last call? ←
14:19:12 <Steven> [Agreement]
[Agreement] ←
14:19:21 <Steven> RESOLUTION: Take role to last call
RESOLVED: Take role to last call ←
14:19:33 <Steven> ACTION: Shane to update public WD of CURIEs
ACTION: Shane to update public WD of CURIEs ←
14:19:46 <Steven> ACTION: Steven to organise last call of role
ACTION: Steven to organise last call of role ←
14:20:17 <Steven> ACTION: Steven to draft a reply to TAG comments on CURIEs
ACTION: Steven to draft a reply to TAG comments on CURIEs ←
14:21:03 <Steven> Roland: We will discuss the comments next week
Roland Merrick: We will discuss the comments next week ←
14:21:16 <Steven> Steven: I will try to attend, but I'll be at a conference
Steven Pemberton: I will try to attend, but I'll be at a conference ←
14:21:21 <Steven> Topic: XHTML Basic
14:23:00 <Steven> Steven: I sent a draft transition request to Roland, SHane and Chrtis Lilley, and spotted two editorial bugs in the spec, which should be fixed today
Steven Pemberton: I sent a draft transition request to Roland, SHane and Chrtis Lilley, and spotted two editorial bugs in the spec, which should be fixed today ←
14:23:13 <Steven> ... I'd be happy for an OK on the transition request, and I will send it off
... I'd be happy for an OK on the transition request, and I will send it off ←
14:25:23 <Steven> Topic: M12N transition
14:27:01 <Steven> Roland: Status?
Roland Merrick: Status? ←
14:27:31 <Steven> Steven: I have sent a revised transition request with answers to Steve Batt's question to Steve Bratt, and I am awaiting a reply
Steven Pemberton: I have sent a revised transition request with answers to Steve Bratt's question to Steve Bratt, and I am awaiting a reply ←
14:27:40 <Steven> s/Batt/Bratt/
14:27:48 <Steven> Topic: Media type
14:28:35 <Steven> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2008Mar/0086.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2008Mar/0086.html ←
14:29:28 <Steven> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2008Mar/0071.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2008Mar/0071.html ←
14:29:56 <Steven> Shane: Olivier is asking some questions which we should answer
Shane McCarron: Olivier is asking some questions which we should answer ←
14:30:25 <Steven> ... I don't think the mime docuemtn should mention HTML5 since there is no normative spec
... I don't think the mime docuemtn should mention HTML5 since there is no normative spec ←
14:30:49 <Steven> Gregory: THe HTML5 WD has huge wholes
Gregory Rosmaita: The HTML5 WD has huge holes ←
14:30:53 <Steven> s/whole/hole/
14:30:59 <Steven> s/TH/Th/
14:31:13 <Steven> ... and is nowhere near to being complete
... and is nowhere near to being complete ←
14:31:25 <Steven> SHane: Olivier supplies a nugget of useful data
Shane McCarron: Olivier supplies a nugget of useful data ←
14:31:47 <Steven> ... he asks if the note can be a rec
... he asks if the note can be a rec ←
14:32:08 <Steven> Steven: It briongs information together, it doesn't need to be a rec
Steven Pemberton: It brings informatin together, it doesn't need to be a rec ←
14:32:12 <Steven> s/io/i/
14:32:32 <Steven> Shane: He asks if we can make the compatibility guidelines clearer
Shane McCarron: He asks if we can make the compatibility guidelines clearer ←
14:32:50 <Steven> ... I am trying to recast them
... I am trying to recast them ←
14:33:01 <ShaneM> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2008/ED-xhtmlmime-20080331/
Shane McCarron: http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2008/ED-xhtmlmime-20080331/ ←
14:33:46 <Steven> Roland: I would like us to have a document that follows the guidelines as an example
Roland Merrick: I would like us to have a document that follows the guidelines as an example ←
14:35:31 <oedipus> q+
Gregory Rosmaita: q+ ←
14:36:20 <Steven> Steven: We need to point out that they are guidelines, and not requirements
Steven Pemberton: We need to point out that they are guidelines, and not requirements ←
14:36:45 <oedipus> Steven, were you referring to A.7? -- lang attribute important for natural language switching in speech output and braille output (every DAMN country has its own braille code)
Gregory Rosmaita: Steven, were you referring to A.7? -- lang attribute important for natural language switching in speech output and braille output (every DAMN country has its own braille code) ←
14:37:03 <oedipus> same with screen magnifiers -- need to get the right charset for the lang declaration
Gregory Rosmaita: same with screen magnifiers -- need to get the right charset for the lang declaration ←
14:38:01 <Steven> OK Oediupus, thanks
OK Oediupus, thanks ←
14:38:13 <Steven> and do they do xml:lang?
and do they do xml:lang? ←
14:38:42 <oedipus> some do the xml:lang, such as Orca (screen-reader braille-output for GNOME)
Gregory Rosmaita: some do the xml:lang, such as Orca (screen-reader braille-output for GNOME) ←
14:38:44 <Steven> Shane: validators do something with @lang
Shane McCarron: validators do something with @lang ←
14:39:02 <Steven> ... and I'm not sure what we should do about it
... and I'm not sure what we should do about it ←
14:39:07 <Steven> ... especially with RDFa
... especially with RDFa ←
14:39:33 <Steven> ... since XHTML1.1+RDFa does not have @lang, only @xml:lang
... since XHTML1.1+RDFa does not have @lang, only @xml:lang ←
14:40:35 <Steven> Steven: The provblem only arises if you are unable to tell the UA the language of the document
Steven Pemberton: The provblem only arises if you are unable to tell the UA the language of the document ←
14:41:08 <oedipus> GJR: don't have definitive list, but will check on xml:lang support especially in open source community
Gregory Rosmaita: don't have definitive list, but will check on xml:lang support especially in open source community [ Scribe Assist by Gregory Rosmaita ] ←
14:41:18 <Steven> thanks
thanks ←
14:41:21 <oedipus> np
Gregory Rosmaita: np ←
14:41:47 <Steven> q?
q? ←
14:41:54 <Steven> ack o
ack o ←
14:42:32 <Steven> Shane: THe othjer issue is about referencing style elements
Shane McCarron: THe othjer issue is about referencing style elements ←
14:42:46 <Steven> Shane: I think we should say not to use stylesheet declarations
Shane McCarron: I think we should say not to use XML stylesheet declarations ←
14:42:56 <Steven> s/use/use XML /
14:43:02 <oedipus> GJR: commercial assistive tech vendors rely on "lang" because it is far more likely to be present (so they assume) than xml:lang
Gregory Rosmaita: commercial assistive tech vendors rely on "lang" because it is far more likely to be present (so they assume) than xml:lang [ Scribe Assist by Gregory Rosmaita ] ←
14:45:49 <Steven> Shane: Shall we keep the recommendation to use XML stylesheets?
Shane McCarron: Shall we keep the recommendation to use XML stylesheets? ←
14:45:58 <Steven> Steven: I don't think we need to
Steven Pemberton: I don't think we need to ←
14:46:02 <Steven> ... anymore
... anymore ←
14:46:09 <Zakim> -ShaneM
Zakim IRC Bot: -ShaneM ←
14:46:13 <Zakim> -Steven
Zakim IRC Bot: -Steven ←
14:46:14 <Zakim> -Gregory_Rosmaita
Zakim IRC Bot: -Gregory_Rosmaita ←
14:46:14 <Zakim> -alessio
Zakim IRC Bot: -alessio ←
14:46:15 <Zakim> -Roland
Zakim IRC Bot: -Roland ←
14:46:15 <Zakim> -yamx
Scribe problem: the name 'yamx' does not match any of the 22 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alessio Cartocci Alexander Graf Christina Bottomley Elias Torres Gerrie Shults Gregory Rosmaita John Kugelman Luca Mascaro Mark Birbeck Masataka Yakura Michael Rawling Richard Schwerdtfeger Roland Merrick Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Susan Borgrink Tina Holmboe Toshihiko Yamakami Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Zakim IRC Bot: -yamx ←
14:46:17 <Zakim> IA_XHTML2()9:45AM has ended
Zakim IRC Bot: IA_XHTML2()9:45AM has ended ←
14:46:18 <Zakim> Attendees were +0138687aaaa, Roland, Steven, ShaneM, alessio, Gregory_Rosmaita, yamx
Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were +0138687aaaa, Roland, Steven, ShaneM, alessio, Gregory_Rosmaita, yamx ←
14:46:42 <Steven> ... people who want to deliver it as XML know that they are there, but UAs that understand the namespace are going to do the stylesheets anyway
... people who want to deliver it as XML know that they are there, but UAs that understand the namespace are going to do the stylesheets anyway ←
14:46:56 <Steven> Shane: I will update the draft and we can discuss it next week.
Shane McCarron: I will update the draft and we can discuss it next week. ←
14:47:06 <Steven> [ADJOURN]
[ADJOURN] ←
14:47:15 <Steven> zakim, who is here?
zakim, who is here? ←
14:47:15 <Zakim> apparently IA_XHTML2()9:45AM has ended, Steven
Zakim IRC Bot: apparently IA_XHTML2()9:45AM has ended, Steven ←
14:47:16 <Zakim> On IRC I see oedipus, markbirbeck, myakura, Roland, Lachy, Zakim, RRSAgent, ShaneM, CSB, Tina, Steven, krijnh
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see oedipus, markbirbeck, myakura, Roland, Lachy, Zakim, RRSAgent, ShaneM, CSB, Tina, Steven, krijnh ←
14:47:25 <Steven> rrsagent, makee minutes
rrsagent, makee minutes ←
14:47:25 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'makee minutes', Steven. Try /msg RRSAgent help
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I'm logging. I don't understand 'makee minutes', Steven. Try /msg RRSAgent help ←
14:47:34 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes
rrsagent, make minutes ←
14:47:34 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/04/02-xhtml-minutes.html Steven
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/04/02-xhtml-minutes.html Steven ←
14:48:03 <Steven> present+Tina
present+Tina ←
14:48:10 <Steven> Present+Mark
Present+Mark ←
14:48:20 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes
rrsagent, make minutes ←
14:48:20 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/04/02-xhtml-minutes.html Steven
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/04/02-xhtml-minutes.html Steven ←
14:48:54 <Steven> s/04stevenpemberton: 01//G
s/04stevenpemberton: 01//G (warning: replacement failed) ←
14:48:58 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes
rrsagent, make minutes ←
14:48:58 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/04/02-xhtml-minutes.html Steven
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/04/02-xhtml-minutes.html Steven ←
14:54:00 <Steven> s/04stevenpemberton: 01//G
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s/04stevenpemberton: 01//G (warning: replacement failed) ←
14:54:07 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes
rrsagent, make minutes ←
14:54:07 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/04/02-xhtml-minutes.html Steven
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/04/02-xhtml-minutes.html Steven ←
15:00:43 <Steven> s/04stevenpemberton: 01//G
15:00:54 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes
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rrsagent, make minutes ←
15:00:54 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/04/02-xhtml-minutes.html Steven
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/04/02-xhtml-minutes.html Steven ←
15:01:48 <Steven> Yay!
Yay! ←
15:02:04 <Steven> damned escapes in a substitue patters
damned escapes in a substitue patters ←
15:02:45 <Steven> i/Topic: CSS/Scribe: Steven
15:02:52 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes
rrsagent, make minutes ←
15:02:52 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/04/02-xhtml-minutes.html Steven
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/04/02-xhtml-minutes.html Steven ←
15:06:15 <ShaneM> thanks! tell him Thanks and that they comments look great
Shane McCarron: thanks! tell him Thanks and that they comments look great ←
15:06:21 <oedipus> ok
Gregory Rosmaita: ok ←
15:07:41 <oedipus> i was disqualified from doing the review, as i am known to be an ardent advocate of RDFa
Gregory Rosmaita: i was disqualified from doing the review, as i am known to be an ardent advocate of RDFa ←
15:08:59 <Steven> lol
lol ←
15:10:32 <oedipus> there is a ridiculous thread on dev-accessibility@lists.mozilla.org and the GNOME dev list about mac OS accessibility -- maciej claims that they are moving towards AT-SPI (http://a11y.org/atspi) for mac accessibility, but as for aria it is something in the future not to be discussed now...
Gregory Rosmaita: there is a ridiculous thread on dev-accessibility@lists.mozilla.org and the GNOME dev list about mac OS accessibility -- maciej claims that they are moving towards AT-SPI (http://a11y.org/atspi) for mac accessibility, but as for aria it is something in the future not to be discussed now... ←
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